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Silenkiller wrote:

I'd like to point out the recent influx of people who are in favor of ffa Loot. I think the anti-ffa loot crowd may be losing majority :)

That's a bit of a stretch.

I think it means that, having read the developers' comments in favour of it, people who don't want to play a game with 'features' like FFA loots have already decided that this game will not be for them. Reading the comments and seeing the self-congratulatory attitudes of the 'hardcore', 'cut-throat' bully boys describing what they're prepared to do to players who simply want to enjoy some downtime playing a game in a mature and cooperative fashion only confirms it.

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Fantaghiro wrote:

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Silenkiller wrote:

I'd like to point out the recent influx of people who are in favor of ffa Loot. I think the anti-ffa loot crowd may be losing majority :)

That's a bit of a stretch.

I think it means that, having read the developers' comments in favour of it, people who don't want to play a game with 'features' like FFA loots have already decided that this game will not be for them. Reading the comments and seeing the self-congratulatory attitudes of the 'hardcore', 'cut-throat' bully boys describing what they're prepared to do to players who simply want to enjoy some downtime playing a game in a mature and cooperative fashion only confirms it.

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A game doesn't need to have built in features to stop people taking somebody else's loot to allow you to play it in a mature and cooperative fashion. You're sounding immature by saying that.

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senescal wrote:

Option 2: kill monster. get item. equip item. go for next monster to get next item and equip it. repeat a thousand times, get bored of the game.

i dont think diablo would have lasted this long if people got bored that quickly,and i dont remember being pk'd ever,i'm quite happy with the ffa, you can always trade for what you want/need

Probably will come down to how you play the game, solo, with friends or pugs. Never had a real problem with communal drops in other games...greedy players were quickly recognised and found themselves excluded from any groups forming to party.

The smaller the community, the easier it is to recognize ninjas. So yeah, probably won't be an issue with this game unless it starts getting 100k+ users.

The deeper this topic goes the more it shows that people who don’t like FFA loot want an option so both groups of players are happy while those who are in favor of FFA loot want it their way and only their way

Well i just think that there should at least be an option. If you want to play that way then play it if not then don't. I mean basically it will keep people from ninja-ing others people loot if thats what they want which sounds far enough to me.

This isn't a discussion about FFA vs something else. It's a discussion of FFA only vs FFA+something else.

Would you prefer the game to be free for all only loot, or would you prefer to have the option to change it to something else? I'm better most of you that are in favor of FFA really don't mind having another option as long as you get to do your free for all.

So really the decision of the developers is to give us an option to choose free for all or assigned loot, or to force us all to do FFA loot.

You FFA fans don't need to worry. It will be in there. Please stop trying to force the rest of us to deal with it, because we just won't enjoy the game as much as we could have, and we won't be playing with you anyway.

For what it's worth, I've already had friends tell me they won't play it because of ffa loot. They like playing in groups, but they don't like drama. I'll still play it, good arpgs are few and far between. It would have been nice to play with them though.

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Oasisbhrnw wrote:

For what it's worth, I've already had friends tell me they won't play it because of ffa loot. They like playing in groups, but they don't like drama. I'll still play it, good arpgs are few and far between. It would have been nice to play with them though.

Yeah, i know there are also people who won't play this game because it's realistic and brutal. Do you want the devs to change the graphics too? What about an option for cartoony graphics?

It's simple. If you put an option for shared loot nobody will use FFA. It's something like "god mode for pve". If you put an option for "god mode" nobody will use the normal mode because it's fun. They will use god-mode to get the best items as soon as possible for pvp tournaments.

Here we're not discussing adding an option for drops. We're discussing whether it's FFA or it's shared.

It should stay FFA. But my opinion doesn't matter. This is one of those things devs never ever listen to players.

Also there are market share numbers for MMOs and devs can check the top MMOs' loot system. Mostly FFA.