Change % damage from traps to flat damage in lab already.
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traps should not be even mentioned - once you know how they work they no longer matter. i refuse to understand why people are still discussing this excuse of a topic.
10 seconds to die? how sloppy one has to be to stay 10 seconds in a trap? (disconnect? disconnect in a pack of mobs is also deadly so this is - again - a non-issue) if ggg wanted more people to play HC they would have given us all auto-logout, pot-script and real money prizes for participation. because from the looks of it - these are the things people loudly and quietly want: easy game, bragging rights and better rewards because they play 'the hard' game the moment something requiring a miniscule amount of skill is introduced - people run away hardcore my a.. why i do not play hardcore? because this game creates too many BS deaths like strongbox lag (if you spawn a pack of 'devouring' you lag out for some time, 100% guaranteed) and is known to routinely just not work at each major patch for first few days. i bet majority of players that gave up HC did that due to no way of feeling special AND due to tech reasons this and previous league. this league was pathetic tech-issues wise. entire new sound system was given us for alpha testing.. oh and hybrid is perfectly fine. the ES auto-recharges in ~2 secs (if you build properly and reduce the recharge cooldown you can stay in traps indefinitely), and the added buffer helps in the second half of the lab - the izaro fight. if you do not want to cheeze him with bladefal mines you should have at least decent EHP and hybrid always had it easier to 'get there'. it is yet another non-issue blown out of proportion.. |
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" Then monsters should do % damage as well for the same reason ? |
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" Monsters aren't avoidable unless you are ranged. Taking damage from traps are. https://youtu.be/T9kygXtkh10?t=285
FeelsBadMan Remove MF from POE, make juiced map the new MF. |
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Regen is just a small bonus, it is far from as affective as some people who don't know the lab well try to make it look like ( unless you are trying to somewhat cheese it).
About the hybrid calculation : 1k life 1k ES let's say you're taking ... 50% of your life in one sec, and there is a 60% ES modifier on top of the damage, for SE. If you would have only life, you you die in 2 seconds. With 1k ES on top of it, you take 1000*0.5 = 500 dps, plus for the ES 0.5*0.6*1000 = 300 dps. You are now taking 800 dps in your face ... with 2k buffer. It now takes 2.5 seconds for you to die from those traps, and you can still pot the life part = unless you stack regen brainlessely because you are trying to somewhat cheese the content, hybrid is actually better than life at the lab. Like, I have 4600+ life and 1100+ ES, VP, and sometimes if I make a mistake in an uber trial, I'm very glad that I had that ES, like it's really fucking helpful, and it compensates a bit for VP on top of that. So no, hybrid builds are actually better at the lab. And they can use coruscating Elixir, but nobody uses that almost .... I has 2 hc char that I lost in merc in perandus ( one due to a connection problem in a map, right before I went cabled, and the other because I underastimated a box and alt f4 did not save me .... altho my 130 ms ping might have been a reason why it didn't, not sure ). I just wen through the lab normal and cruel without much troubles, and you know what feels good in hC ? That feeling ( and those spikes ) of adrenaline, that feeling of "scared" by a boss, that feeling when you are logging back "oh fuck did I actually survive this ? ..... ". And Lab is giving exactly that, basically. Now maybe Izaro and the monsters inside the lab could use some tuning, but that's not a trap problem. So no, hell don't put some more content that can be trivializd by just gear and ignored to get then free power creep. Atm, the lab is a gear check about Izaro ( and Argus ), and a skillcheck about the rest. I hope I won't become 100% of a gear check, and I don't think it will honestly. SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading. Last edited by Fruz#6137 on Aug 4, 2016, 12:45:29 AM
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" Don't see any skill required to do Lab. Didn't count but did it about 100 times in Perandus HC and never died there. " Get good ! ;) |
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" You went batshit on that 10 sec while it was simply an assumed point of reference in my calculations. Read again please, there is also 1k hp there along with 9128391284k hp. I assumed 20% trap dps and assumed 10% regen for calculations to be clearer. I have no idea how you could miss that and assume it's 10 seconds of standing still on a trap. My point in the maths was to show you that life amount does not matter and ES actually HURTS you and you are better of without it. |
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double post sorry
Last edited by Razis#4500 on Aug 4, 2016, 1:00:43 AM
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" good point, but by following the same logic you might conclude that plain 2k ES is BEST for lab, because you only get 600 dps in that scenario so you survive +3sec... while we know it's bullshit because again, easy acess to regen and pots is what makes it easy for life based. And we still got that thing where eva and armour are useless. |
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" that I do agree with 100%, altough I don't accept logout or alt-f4 as a legit game feature (it's another subject, but the fact that game is balanced around it is silly in my opinion and was silly since d2.) and refuse to use it. My portal game is on point though :-) Last edited by Razis#4500 on Aug 4, 2016, 1:16:25 AM
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it is not useless - you then arrive at Izaro and that AR/EV suddenly matters. why you split hairs over traps separately from the rest of the game? Lab is just a part of it - one of the constraints your character has to take into consideration when being created
and most of this stuff i read here is simply BS. guys accept it already: the main way of preventing trap damage is NOT BEING HIT. if you accept that and get used to avoiding them - all this talk is just wasting everyone's time. it is that simple. it is like people talking about what position is safest during a car crash and completely ignoring the fact the seat belts are there to be used. |
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