OP mechanics: cast on crit, vaal pact, surgeon flasks [2 boss, vuln Vaal Temple DEATHLESS]

i just wanted to say that people playing gimped builds with gimped skills is not build diversity. those are just bored people pretending to be snowflakes or new people that know not what they're doing.

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MatrixFactor wrote:

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

You can try and sit here all day and tell me what you think its worth, fact is its not worth that much, multiple people are even telling you that. I mean if it makes you feel rich to think its worth 80 ex youre entitled to that feeling, but dont get mad when people tell you how it is.

Well don't know if the joke is on me, but I did sell the ring for 85exa equivalent.

If that's still not enough for you, feel free to pm the guy in the video and ask him to link you the ring.

Edit: and replaced it for 6ex (3 to buy + 3 to craft). Guess I can live with that.

I like how you think 85 ex is worth '' a lot '' in the standard economy bahaha

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kreca73 wrote:

i just wanted to say that people playing gimped builds with gimped skills is not build diversity. those are just bored people pretending to be snowflakes or new people that know not what they're doing.

I find this attitude to be indicative of a wider issue within the playerbase that stifles some of necessary changes that GGG is trying to undertake.

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MatrixFactor wrote:

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

You can try and sit here all day and tell me what you think its worth, fact is its not worth that much, multiple people are even telling you that. I mean if it makes you feel rich to think its worth 80 ex youre entitled to that feeling, but dont get mad when people tell you how it is.

Well don't know if the joke is on me, but I did sell the ring for 85exa equivalent.

If that's still not enough for you, feel free to pm the guy in the video and ask him to link you the ring.

Edit: and replaced it for 6ex (3 to buy + 3 to craft). Guess I can live with that.

I like how you think 85 ex is worth '' a lot '' in the standard economy bahaha

"Hey friend, can you help me prove this guy wrong and let me make a video of you trading this much currency for my item"

Because we havent seen this before lmao.

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Johnsonman07

Even if it is a real trade, congrats on finding someone dumb enough to buy it. As i said before, it can be crafted for under 5 ex, the fact that you "replaced" it for 6 ex just proves my point, soo thanks for that, still not worth 80ex.

Oh my in-depth research I didn't think the OP was worthy of that well to be fair wasn't worth my time cuz it's just funny.

I don't think surgeon mod is OP. It depends on your build. If you are playing fast hitting crit character with CoC setup then yes surgeon is most efficient choice. If you are playing slow hitting crit character (for example Ice Crash) perpetual could be better option.

I don't like the fact, that surgeon is only way how refill flasks on bosses without going TP every now and then. Maybe avenger's mod could be improved to fill this role for non-crit characters. Right now this mod sucks. No one want to be hit by critical in this game.

Improving things that doesn't work seem to me like better way then nerfing things that actually work.

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kreca73 wrote:

i just wanted to say that people playing gimped builds with gimped skills is not build diversity. those are just bored people pretending to be snowflakes or new people that know not what they're doing.

I find this attitude to be indicative of a wider issue within the playerbase that stifles some of necessary changes that GGG is trying to undertake.

This has nothing to do with attitude it is just simple math. If you can build a char at a certain level that can deal a certain amount of dmg and has a certain amount of defences with gear for a certain amount of currency than it is nothing but plain stupid to build a char that either needs a higher level or more expensive gear to archive the same amount of dmg & defences.

Edit: Same is true for mf, movementspeed and other stuff too. It all boils down to clearspeed & income.

I'm not seeing the "OP" part of that build;

Can someone show me?

Try to get lv 100 with that build on HC :)

Your life is dropping like shit.

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666lol666 wrote:

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kreca73 wrote:

i just wanted to say that people playing gimped builds with gimped skills is not build diversity. those are just bored people pretending to be snowflakes or new people that know not what they're doing.

I find this attitude to be indicative of a wider issue within the playerbase that stifles some of necessary changes that GGG is trying to undertake.

This has nothing to do with attitude it is just simple math. If you can build a char at a certain level that can deal a certain amount of dmg and has a certain amount of defences with gear for a certain amount of currency than it is nothing but plain stupid to build a char that either needs a higher level or more expensive gear to archive the same amount of dmg & defences.

Edit: Same is true for mf, movementspeed and other stuff too. It all boils down to clearspeed & income.

Nait is correct though.

Efficiency does not always equal fun. For a part of the player-base this holds true, it would be unwise to assume it to be true for everybody.

I enjoy my quirky builds for example, knowing full well they are inefficient at times, on the other hand, they do keep me in the game longer then a highly efficient build most of the times.

And if people did not go of the given "efficiency ubber alles" path, they would not discover new meta's and mechanical abuses/synergy's.

Peace,

-Boem-

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Boem wrote:

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666lol666 wrote:

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I find this attitude to be indicative of a wider issue within the playerbase that stifles some of necessary changes that GGG is trying to undertake.

This has nothing to do with attitude it is just simple math. If you can build a char at a certain level that can deal a certain amount of dmg and has a certain amount of defences with gear for a certain amount of currency than it is nothing but plain stupid to build a char that either needs a higher level or more expensive gear to archive the same amount of dmg & defences.

Edit: Same is true for mf, movementspeed and other stuff too. It all boils down to clearspeed & income.

Nait is correct though.

Efficiency does not always equal fun. For a part of the player-base this holds true, it would be unwise to assume it to be true for everybody.

I enjoy my quirky builds for example, knowing full well they are inefficient at times, on the other hand, they do keep me in the game longer then a highly efficient build most of the times.

And if people did not go of the given "efficiency ubber alles" path, they would not discover new meta's and mechanical abuses/synergy's.

Peace,

-Boem-

calling you a minority will not give you justice then. if you make a poll about what players consider fun, you'll find it to be something close to what 666lol666 said.
and believe me, people will try everything and then some if more skills are seen as balanced rather than when they aren't perceived as balanced.