...::: SFL Poll results and conclusions :::...

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wisdorin wrote:

the game is not designed to get all good items, only goot loot all the time. it would be too easy, and boring in the end. And everybody who dislikes trading would play in SFL and ofc HC SFL league...

I would prefer to find and craft my own stuff but there is no way in hell I would play a self found league thats balanced FOR trading.

I don't get this "too easy" stuff, the game is already TOO easy because you can trade for anything you want really easily. A game thats decently balanced for self found would not be easier than what we have now with trading because you still can't choose what you find. Its all up to RNG.

Your are asking for a quick loot 2.0 league without trading? RoS will have that, its fun for a short time...

no atm its not easy because of trading, you still have to farm(=play a lot) to get currency, sometimtes you have to trade a lot too...

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bluefalcon74 wrote:

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Nightmare90 wrote:

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Sneakypaw wrote:

I am stunned by the massive amount of people that participated in that poll.

The sample size does not really matter but grants some safety for calculations.
I don't know if OP actually did any calculations.

What matters more is to avoid any bias in the sampling approach
and aim for an evenly distributed and actually defined research group.

"I took a statistics class in middle school, and also sociology (pre-req) at my local community college. Therefore, I am an expert in these matters."

You can look it up, if you don't believe it.
Every starter literature in survey methodology will state this.

However I can recommend "Statistics" by David Freedman.

But I don't expect that much of an effort by someone relying on poor sarcastic remarks.

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Nightmare90 wrote:

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bluefalcon74 wrote:

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Nightmare90 wrote:

The sample size does not really matter but grants some safety for calculations.
I don't know if OP actually did any calculations.

What matters more is to avoid any bias in the sampling approach
and aim for an evenly distributed and actually defined research group.

"I took a statistics class in middle school, and also sociology (pre-req) at my local community college. Therefore, I am an expert in these matters."

You can look it up, if you don't believe it.
Every starter literature in survey methodology will state this.

But I don't expect that much of an effort by someone relying on poor sarcastic remarks.

He's just mad that we are right about the poll being statistically irrelevant.

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Xavderion wrote:

He's just mad that we are right about the poll being statistically irrelevant.

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wisdorin wrote:

no atm its not easy because of trading, you still have to farm(=play a lot) to get currency, sometimtes you have to trade a lot too...

Your saying that there aren't people with hundreds of exalts who obtained most of it by flipping?

Ya you have to trade a lot and I personally find it sad that the best way to get rich in a game isn't even to really play it, just the AH tycoon mini game.

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Xavderion wrote:

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Nightmare90 wrote:

But I don't expect that much of an effort by someone relying on poor sarcastic remarks.

He's just mad that we are right about the poll being statistically irrelevant.

I'm guessing he was making fun of thinking it was even necessary to point that fact out, as though anyone thought otherwise.

The manner of its execution just made for an easy target.

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iamstryker wrote:

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wisdorin wrote:

no atm its not easy because of trading, you still have to farm(=play a lot) to get currency, sometimtes you have to trade a lot too...

Your saying that there aren't people with hundreds of exalts who obtained most of it by flipping?

Ya you have to trade a lot and I personally find it sad that the best way to get rich in a game isn't even to really play it, just the AH tycoon mini game.

sure there are. but there are some with 300 ex worth of items who obtained them via RMT...And you know what i dont care, it doesnt affect my gameplay in any way if someone has better items and how he gets them...

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Xavderion wrote:

"What I meant is you need an unbiased/representative data sample of the statistical population (which is all players of the game). This certainly wasn't given in the poll thread, since mostly people interested in a SFL entered the thread and voted for it..

Of course, poll was only for people actually willing to respond, how ingenious of you to point out that. Btw it's the same principle we elect our governments and they found it legit, aren't they? So system good enough for picking country leaders but not up to your high standards?

Btw IF all those seemingly uninterested people that don't know don't care would actually be explained the idea, how much of them would say "whatahell why not?? sounds fun!"

I know it pains to be wrong but stop making excuses already. People want SFL, it's most debated theme on forums maybe. If 90% were uninterested (according to you) those threads would be dead and they are alive and kicking.

So you're wrong, get over it already.

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Xavderion wrote:

"What I meant is you need an unbiased/representative data sample of the statistical population (which is all players of the game). This certainly wasn't given in the poll thread, since mostly people interested in a SFL entered the thread and voted for it..

Don't forget all the haters/turbonerds who pop into every SFL thread to argue against it.