...::: SFL Poll results and conclusions :::...

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Thorien_Kell wrote:
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Tojejedno wrote:
I'd be much more interested in the actual numbers than in a graph whose bars add up to more than 100%...


Lol you're funny one : )
Graph says everything really, only if you read it right : )
but if you need exact numbers ...
A - 65
B - 28
C - 9
D - 27


Ha ha, this is lol. The graph is number of votes and not % of votes.
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I am stunned by the massive amount of people that participated in that poll.
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Sneakypaw wrote:
I am stunned by the massive amount of people that participated in that poll.

The sample size does not really matter but grants some safety for calculations.
I don't know if OP actually did any calculations.

What matters more is to avoid any bias in the sampling approach
and aim for an evenly distributed and actually defined research group.
Last edited by Nightmare90#4217 on Dec 7, 2013, 5:42:09 PM
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Nightmare90 wrote:
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Sneakypaw wrote:
I am stunned by the massive amount of people that participated in that poll.

The sample size does not really matter but grants some safety for calculations.
I don't know if OP actually did any calculations.

What matters more is to avoid any bias in the sampling approach
and aim for an evenly distributed and actually defined research group.


"I took a statistics class in middle school, and also sociology (pre-req) at my local community college. Therefore, I am an expert in these matters."

btw:

With a samplesize of 100 your margin of error would be 9.78%. If you want a confidence level around 99% you would need a sample size of something around 400 participans min.

so yeah you have numbers, but meh to reliability, btw i would love to get a SFL league without trading but please dont increase any droprates or change any other aspect of the game, wouldnt make sense then.

i play SFL most of the time because im sick of trading and i like the challange.
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Last edited by wisdorin#1020 on Dec 8, 2013, 1:33:38 PM
IMO those who like the challenge can do it in the current leagues.

If GGG actually puts the time into making a league for self found players then it should balance the game for that kind of play.
Standard Forever
then its not a selffound league..l..so everybody who wants the challange in hc can delete chars after he died in sc?...

it would be a different game if they would "balance" the droprates for "sfl players"...

like good old d2 and the mods you could get for it, it was not the same game when you could get all runes on mass...

But i guess GGG will bring SFLLeague Options for paid leagues once they are released...

the game is not designed to get all good items, only goot loot all the time. it would be too easy, and boring in the end. And everybody who dislikes trading would play in SFL and ofc HC SFL league...

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Last edited by wisdorin#1020 on Dec 8, 2013, 1:43:51 PM
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wisdorin wrote:
btw:

With a samplesize of 100 your margin of error would be 9.78%. If you want a confidence level around 99% you would need a sample size of something around 400 participans min.

so yeah you have numbers, but meh to reliability, btw i would love to get a SFL league without trading but please dont increase any droprates or change any other aspect of the game, wouldnt make sense then.

i play SFL most of the time because im sick of trading and i like the challange.


The sample size isn't the problem, it's the way he 'picked' the participants of the poll that is biased.
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Xavderion wrote:


The sample size isn't the problem, it's the way he 'picked' the participants of the poll that is biased.


wth are you talking about?

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Thorien_Kell wrote:
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Xavderion wrote:


The sample size isn't the problem, it's the way he 'picked' the participants of the poll that is biased.


wth are you talking about?



"What I meant is you need an unbiased/representative data sample of the statistical population (which is all players of the game). This certainly wasn't given in the poll thread, since mostly people interested in a SFL entered the thread and voted for it. As said before, my assumption is that the vast majority of players simply don't care about SFL or don't even know what it is. If you don't know or care you won't enter the thread and vote."

"The best way to do this is to randomly whisper people in game who are standing around in town and ask them if they want a SFL. Most of them probably wouldn't know what it is :)"

Quoting myself from a couple of pages ago.
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