Zombie´s suck since latest Patch - 135% resists... Endgame Summoner screwed. Help us Pls

Problem for me are AOE mobs. Those just rape any and every minion I have. And stuff like Piety. 1 lightning ball and minions die. If not, 1 ice form finishes them. Or those rare/magic undying alchemists...boom, bye minions (purity...yeaaaa no, vitality's 1,5% regen yeaaa no).

Necromantic aegis...yeah no thx, then I'd die to stuff (gods of gear do not favour me). It's fucking hard enough to survive after the "balance patch" as is since shit 2 shots me anyway - no shield = 1 shot. That keystone would need (imo) be changed to "minions also receive" not as is "you lose, they get"...

Inb4 get midnight bargain, bones of ullr, the amulet, 800+ ES 6l tri ele HP vaal regalia and accessories and/or everything else in MF/tri res/HP/uber gear variety . Gief that gear and I'd also wouldn't be complaining :P, with me atm having 2k HP, bit of ES and paper armor and zombos with 15k HP dying in 1 second it's a bit pointless to even have them (as someone said, often they don't activate minion instability which is lol, that shit should activate at any time...minion dies=boom, not minion "decides to cast boom"...or make explosion larger not like a little fart.

Or the fascinating minion AI, specially in corridors (not exclusive to closed areas, they get lost on meadows too...prolly watching butterflies and whatnot). I usually have min 10 minions yet often I'm running around alone. Summoning crappy skeletons while zombies and specters do who the hell knows what. Or they come 1 by 1 in a room full of magic mobs only to die before even deciding what to attack. Sad.

Anyway, I'm not expecting my minions to tank from start to end of map/instance. But seeing a whole minion brigade die in 1 enemy attack is just...uberlolzworthy. And then you had the curse nerf, god forbid minions would share charges (at least endurance ones) etc etc.


Yeh, I'm pissed off coz I'm running up and down crappy maps, Piety and other assorted placed farming gear and I get shit for drops in weeks + I have to deal with crappy minions all the time. And yes, I have every node for minions (xcept aegis), rest is put in to my own survivability and a bit of mana/curses, so my own dmg is lol. Oh, lv79 btw, not looking to go higher anytime soon :P
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domov wrote:


I just tried a OVERGROWN RUIN Map L66

My Minions got wiped out on the 1st room by Poison and Fire Enemies.

It took like 5-10 seconds for my whole Minion army to dissapear


It would be really nice if a GGG Developer could take a look into this because any other class has no problems with a L66 MAP.


Why GGG is ignoring ENDGAME (and not shitty L50) Summoners is a Myth to me.......


Does GGG want us L80+ Summoners to farm Docks and Lunaris forever ??? Maybe its becoming boring sooner or later?? Could that be possible ??

Jesus one GGG Developer must take a look into this.........


p.s again for all you lame level 40 or 50 Summoners arguing here >>>>>>>>>> shut up please !



Level 80, Exclusively Solo Summoner. I have no problem with any map I come in contact with. As I've stated previously.

PS: God, looking at this I just realized my belt is shittastic.

Build:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMAAP0FOgdjEJcRUBSwFVAV1xpsHNwdFB3ZJ6ko-iqYLKYsvzdmN4M74UGHQ1RDY0QERnFI5025T31Pv1ZjVytY9VqRXypmnmqsa9ttGXB9cU1zU3RVeLp6uHzOfRh-WX_GgFaCx4SvhWCGrohAj0aQM5MnlSCaz5uhna6dxJ97oqOmrKbrpwinK6h9qZWqxKyYtAy3MbiTu9a_l8BUwcXB88NtxczJPcy80NDT-9eG2Qvi9-aB6-Tr7uwY7IryHvfB99f6gPrS

Last edited by Elynole#2906 on Jul 2, 2013, 10:26:49 AM
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Novalight wrote:
Problem for me are AOE mobs. Those just rape any and every minion I have. And stuff like Piety. 1 lightning ball and minions die. If not, 1 ice form finishes them. Or those rare/magic undying alchemists...boom, bye minions (purity...yeaaaa no, vitality's 1,5% regen yeaaa no).

Necromantic aegis...yeah no thx, then I'd die to stuff (gods of gear do not favour me). It's fucking hard enough to survive after the "balance patch" as is since shit 2 shots me anyway - no shield = 1 shot. That keystone would need (imo) be changed to "minions also receive" not as is "you lose, they get"...

Inb4 get midnight bargain, bones of ullr, the amulet, 800+ ES 6l tri ele HP vaal regalia and accessories and/or everything else in MF/tri res/HP/uber gear variety . Gief that gear and I'd also wouldn't be complaining :P, with me atm having 2k HP, bit of ES and paper armor and zombos with 15k HP dying in 1 second it's a bit pointless to even have them (as someone said, often they don't activate minion instability which is lol, that shit should activate at any time...minion dies=boom, not minion "decides to cast boom"...or make explosion larger not like a little fart.

Or the fascinating minion AI, specially in corridors (not exclusive to closed areas, they get lost on meadows too...prolly watching butterflies and whatnot). I usually have min 10 minions yet often I'm running around alone. Summoning crappy skeletons while zombies and specters do who the hell knows what. Or they come 1 by 1 in a room full of magic mobs only to die before even deciding what to attack. Sad.

Anyway, I'm not expecting my minions to tank from start to end of map/instance. But seeing a whole minion brigade die in 1 enemy attack is just...uberlolzworthy. And then you had the curse nerf, god forbid minions would share charges (at least endurance ones) etc etc.


Yeh, I'm pissed off coz I'm running up and down crappy maps, Piety and other assorted placed farming gear and I get shit for drops in weeks + I have to deal with crappy minions all the time. And yes, I have every node for minions (xcept aegis), rest is put in to my own survivability and a bit of mana/curses, so my own dmg is lol. Oh, lv79 btw, not looking to go higher anytime soon :P


Um.. if you're that upset how about playing another class? You act like you're being forced to "run maps for weeks for shit drops". I don't have that much of a problem steering minions, use spells to maneuver them. Different spectres also have different AI, flame sentinels being the most annoying IMO.

Sounds like you got RNG'd hard and you're salty about it.
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Elynole wrote:
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domov wrote:


I just tried a OVERGROWN RUIN Map L66

My Minions got wiped out on the 1st room by Poison and Fire Enemies.

It took like 5-10 seconds for my whole Minion army to dissapear


It would be really nice if a GGG Developer could take a look into this because any other class has no problems with a L66 MAP.


Why GGG is ignoring ENDGAME (and not shitty L50) Summoners is a Myth to me.......


Does GGG want us L80+ Summoners to farm Docks and Lunaris forever ??? Maybe its becoming boring sooner or later?? Could that be possible ??

Jesus one GGG Developer must take a look into this.........


p.s again for all you lame level 40 or 50 Summoners arguing here >>>>>>>>>> shut up please !



Level 80, Exclusively Solo Summoner. I have no problem with any map I come in contact with. As I've stated previously.

PS: God, looking at this I just realized my belt is shittastic.

Build:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMAAP0FOgdjEJcRUBSwFVAV1xpsHNwdFB3ZJ6ko-iqYLKYsvzdmN4M74UGHQ1RDY0QERnFI5025T31Pv1ZjVytY9VqRXypmnmqsa9ttGXB9cU1zU3RVeLp6uHzOfRh-WX_GgFaCx4SvhWCGrohAj0aQM5MnlSCaz5uhna6dxJ97oqOmrKbrpwinK6h9qZWqxKyYtAy3MbiTu9a_l8BUwcXB88NtxczJPcy80NDT-9eG2Qvi9-aB6-Tr7uwY7IryHvfB99f6gPrS



interesting. why u need freezing pulse as a pure summoner?
and u dont have necromantic aegis, so u are spamming minions and killing mobs with freezing pulse right?
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naughty wrote:


interesting. why u need freezing pulse as a pure summoner?
and u dont have necromantic aegis, so u are spamming minions and killing mobs with freezing pulse right?


Actually, my FP does little to no damage whatsoever - I used it early on to level when minions are usually weak, I keep it handy in case, in rare instances, a stray mob gets too close - I can spam a few FPs on them to slow them and get back behind my minions.

Most of my damage comes from Minion Instability. I'm currently modifying this build so that instead of using freezing pulse I'm using a bow with Poison Arrow as a supplementary skill to spam all over the place while my minions are killing shit. I'm testing this on Onslaught, so wish me luck!

It's also good to mention that with this build I have something like 5k+ ES, and 78% ele resist fire/cold/lightning with the 100% chaos resist from CI. I can't remember my block chance, but it's decent as well.
Last edited by Elynole#2906 on Jul 2, 2013, 11:03:32 AM
I'm rather unimpressed with my Zombies. I went and played my default league Witch, and just rounding stuff up to go run maps, I was losing Zombies at a pretty fast clip.

While I agree that the bug was a problem, the non report of the bug isn't surprising. There really isn't a good interface in game for dealing with Minions.

As far as if the Zombies are now running around at -60 Resist in Merc. If they are, that's ridiculous. They should be at 0 at the worst. Further Amplifying the damage on them and only offering NA and the gem that doesn't level up high enough to get them to max resists is a poor workaround.
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Elynole wrote:
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domov wrote:


Spoiler
I just tried a OVERGROWN RUIN Map L66

My Minions got wiped out on the 1st room by Poison and Fire Enemies.

It took like 5-10 seconds for my whole Minion army to dissapear


It would be really nice if a GGG Developer could take a look into this because any other class has no problems with a L66 MAP.


Why GGG is ignoring ENDGAME (and not shitty L50) Summoners is a Myth to me.......


Does GGG want us L80+ Summoners to farm Docks and Lunaris forever ??? Maybe its becoming boring sooner or later?? Could that be possible ??

Jesus one GGG Developer must take a look into this.........


p.s again for all you lame level 40 or 50 Summoners arguing here >>>>>>>>>> shut up please !



We must be playing different games...

My skill tree (very similiar to yours) and equipment currently, in lvl 66 maps Incinerators will melt my spectres and skeletons, and zombies would struggle to survive. That's with vitality+purity+me chugging %minion health potions.

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMAAP0HYwx9EH8QlxFQFLAV1xpsHNwdFCepKPoqmCymLL83ZjeDOVI6MDvhQ2NEBEZxSOdNuU5tVmNXK1gHWPVakV8qZp5qrGvbbRlxTXNTdFV8zn0Yfll_xoLHhWCGrohAj0aQM5MnlSCaz5uhna6io6aspuunCKcrqH2qxKyYtAy3MbiTu9a8N7-XwcXB88Ntxp7JPcy80NDT-9eG2Qvi9-aB6rrr5Ovu7BjsivIe98H31_qA-tI=



but the WORST thing about summones are indoor maps. Minion AI is so damn stupid.
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Odoakar wrote:

but the WORST thing about summones are indoor maps. Minion AI is so damn stupid.


We most definitely have a different playstyle then. Because I find indoor maps to simply be the easiest. You can choke point any melee mobs coming at you, you don't have to enter rooms, and can spam cast/Minion Instability a whole room of blues in a matter of seconds. The maps that scare me are open area maps where you're left vulnerable from behind.
About the minon ai, well they´re rotten zombies with half a brain or skelletons/spectres just raised with the will and magicpower of the summoner... IF I WOULD HAVE PLAYED D&D THAT WOULD BE MY TAKE ON IT YA FUCK
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Elynole wrote:
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Odoakar wrote:

but the WORST thing about summones are indoor maps. Minion AI is so damn stupid.


We most definitely have a different playstyle then. Because I find indoor maps to simply be the easiest. You can choke point any melee mobs coming at you, you don't have to enter rooms, and can spam cast/Minion Instability a whole room of blues in a matter of seconds. The maps that scare me are open area maps where you're left vulnerable from behind.


Yes, I MUCH prefer indoor maps as a summoner.

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