Path of Exile 1 Gameplay Help and Discussion - Remove MF completely from game - Forum

" WUlf1337 wrote: " Asphael wrote: " Treble wrote: ARPGs are based around loot. Working towards high MF and then cumming when you see all your rares drop is the point. Getting rid of it would just make the game dull. The point is that with MF as an item stat, you will never equip the loot you so much want to find. So.. play with mf because you want to find awesome items -> find awesome items -> don't use them because playing without mf you won't find any new items. MF as an item stat is the dumbest design in D2, and it's still ridiculously bad in PoE. Good summarization of lots of posts in here. Thank You for this, exactly my point as well.	Posted by Daefecator#4146 on Jun 29, 2013, 8:32:24 PM Quote this Post
" Daefecator wrote: Magic Find is mandatory archaic mechanic of the genre and should be removed. The entire crux of your point is subjective and emotional. You believe that there should not exist a mechanic that puts your build at an inherent disadvantage. In other words, you prefer an ARPG like Gauntlet: Dark Legacy. One where every class gets the same things. That's fine, and those games can be fun, but don't act like everyone sees it the same way. Because we don't. Last edited by jcmjx#0825 on Jun 29, 2013, 8:59:58 PM	Posted by jcmjx#0825 on Jun 29, 2013, 8:59:18 PM Quote this Post
" Hovergame wrote: Again, you're simply hiding a "BUFF ME LULZ" sentence behind the mighty word "balance". And YOU ARE FUCKING ABLE TO EQUIP YOUR FUCKING FIGHTER. WITH A FUCKING LEVEL 88 MARA IN HC, YOU ShOULD KNOW IT. Holy crap calm down. This isn't really a case of either side being right or wrong its more of a personal preference on what some people like and don't like. The whole "Buff me LuLz" is just an overreaction and conspiracy theory. Anyone can make a stacked MF character easily. If I was happy doing that then I wouldn't be in here talking about how boring Magic Find is. Standard Forever Last edited by iamstryker#5952 on Jun 29, 2013, 9:09:10 PM	Posted by iamstryker#5952 on Jun 29, 2013, 9:08:48 PM Quote this Post
" jcmjx wrote: " Daefecator wrote: Magic Find is mandatory archaic mechanic of the genre and should be removed. The entire crux of your point is subjective and emotional. You believe that there should not exist a mechanic that puts your build at an inherent disadvantage. In other words, you prefer an ARPG like Gauntlet: Dark Legacy. One where every class gets the same things. That's fine, and those games can be fun, but don't act like everyone sees it the same way. Because we don't. There are builds which are not put at a disadvantage when using magic find. Drops are balanced around high magic find, any build which can't stack it is not sustainable. And removing MF won't make every class the same, it will just change the meta so that killspeed and efficiency is how you get more items. This is instead of stacking a boring number on your stats sheet. P̯̹̙̥̉̏ͦͯA̠̝̰̣̯͕͚̲̭͈̥̠͑̓̿ͦ̾ͯ̍ͅͅȚ̜̦͕̞̞̠̮͎͔͙͔̺̺͉̟̿̿̏ͬ͛͋̍ͮ̌̚H̹͕͚̟͍̘̤̱̻̬͓̬̮̫̦͖̳̹ͮͨ̒̉ͮ̿̈ͪ̇̿͆ͭ̃ͭ̃ͭ̚ ̲̫̞̤͓̳͑ͬ̾͌ͯ͐͂̿͗ͨ͋͑̍͐͗̾̄O͕̮̻͔̳̠͉͖̳͖͈̻͇͈̣̙̪͈ͨ͐̒̽ͣ̋ͅF̣͎̞̞̯̝ͦ͌̆ͥ̈͐̾ͣ̔ͮ̐̀̏ͪ̚ ̟̩͙̙̩̮̻̼ͬ͑ͥͦ͗̿E̼̭̩̜͕̱̤̭̞͖̳͍̝̤̼͓̗ͩͫ̌ͬ̊̋̄͑͗̽X͕̰̪̱̲̩̙̦͓͓̯̠̤̝̝̯̣̥̀̋̌̍̚Ȉ̖̟͔̩̝̊̿ͪͅL̺͓̻̰̀͋̅ͮͧE͔̼͚͕̮̻̟̩̪̖̫̪̦͙̎̑͆̏ͨͅ Last edited by lukeiy#6623 on Jun 29, 2013, 9:20:11 PM	Posted by lukeiy#6623 on Jun 29, 2013, 9:19:41 PM Quote this Post
" lukeiy wrote: And removing MF won't make every class the same, it will just change the meta so that killspeed and efficiency is how you get more items. This is instead of stacking a boring number on your stats sheet. Do you not realize how utterly retarded this statement is?	Posted by jcmjx#0825 on Jun 29, 2013, 9:24:35 PM Quote this Post
I like to chime in every 5-10 pages and say the same thing. Steep diminishing returns. Y'all only see black and white, I like grayscale.	Posted by Herpy_Derpleson#6025 on Jun 29, 2013, 9:31:41 PM Banned Quote this Post
" jcmjx wrote: " lukeiy wrote: And removing MF won't make every class the same, it will just change the meta so that killspeed and efficiency is how you get more items. This is instead of stacking a boring number on your stats sheet. Do you not realize how utterly retarded this statement is? I hope you do realize that your statement is very informative though. After MF is no more, the game will be changed into finding perfect balance between survivability and kill speed - exactly what ARPGs are about - to find best items assuming content is be properly balanced around solo play as well as group play.	Posted by Daefecator#4146 on Jun 29, 2013, 9:52:51 PM Quote this Post
"After MF is no more" Considering GGG said no more wipes, this won't happen. Ever. Keep on trying though, your exercises in futility amuse me greatly.	Posted by Herpy_Derpleson#6025 on Jun 29, 2013, 10:01:49 PM Banned Quote this Post
" Herpy_Derpleson wrote: "After MF is no more" Considering GGG said no more wipes, this won't happen. Ever. Keep on trying though, your exercises in futility amuse me greatly. Here's mine. All rare IIQ mods on current items gain added drawback of reduced item rarity, equal to the % of IIQ All rare IIR mods on current items gain added drawback of reduced item quantity, equal to half the % of IIR IIQ and IIR affixes no longer spawn on gear If necessary, though, I'd settle for the last point alone. Not exactly a huge fan of all kind of legacy MF gear, but after a few years it would largely die off. When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted. Last edited by ScrotieMcB#2697 on Jun 29, 2013, 10:05:30 PM	Posted by ScrotieMcB#2697 on Jun 29, 2013, 10:03:54 PM Quote this Post
" jcmjx wrote: " lukeiy wrote: And removing MF won't make every class the same, it will just change the meta so that killspeed and efficiency is how you get more items. This is instead of stacking a boring number on your stats sheet. Do you not realize how utterly retarded this statement is? So... you've got no rebuttal? Please enlighten me how mandatory magic find makes the game more exciting and/or interesting. P̯̹̙̥̉̏ͦͯA̠̝̰̣̯͕͚̲̭͈̥̠͑̓̿ͦ̾ͯ̍ͅͅȚ̜̦͕̞̞̠̮͎͔͙͔̺̺͉̟̿̿̏ͬ͛͋̍ͮ̌̚H̹͕͚̟͍̘̤̱̻̬͓̬̮̫̦͖̳̹ͮͨ̒̉ͮ̿̈ͪ̇̿͆ͭ̃ͭ̃ͭ̚ ̲̫̞̤͓̳͑ͬ̾͌ͯ͐͂̿͗ͨ͋͑̍͐͗̾̄O͕̮̻͔̳̠͉͖̳͖͈̻͇͈̣̙̪͈ͨ͐̒̽ͣ̋ͅF̣͎̞̞̯̝ͦ͌̆ͥ̈͐̾ͣ̔ͮ̐̀̏ͪ̚ ̟̩͙̙̩̮̻̼ͬ͑ͥͦ͗̿E̼̭̩̜͕̱̤̭̞͖̳͍̝̤̼͓̗ͩͫ̌ͬ̊̋̄͑͗̽X͕̰̪̱̲̩̙̦͓͓̯̠̤̝̝̯̣̥̀̋̌̍̚Ȉ̖̟͔̩̝̊̿ͪͅL̺͓̻̰̀͋̅ͮͧE͔̼͚͕̮̻̟̩̪̖̫̪̦͙̎̑͆̏ͨͅ	Posted by lukeiy#6623 on Jun 29, 2013, 10:06:21 PM Quote this Post