Remove MF completely from game

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iamstryker wrote:

I thought he was playing that build for the magic find...

His point still makes sense though its not like people aren't doing the same thing in high level maps. I ran a 72 high quantity map today solo with my magic find build. I get far more loot doing that than with a regular build which is why I think magic find works against build diversity.

If I was only in it for more loot I would keep my mouth shut. I get more loot doing this but the game feels more boring to me.



Next time, find 5 friends an do that map in group without MF and compare the loot/time.

Seriously, I'm getting tired of this stupid thread. It doesn't work against build diversity, since you can buold WITH or WITHOUT MF.
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Hovergame wrote:
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xank wrote:
I just died on my dual Sporker MFer faceroll character.... stupid phone call afk on docks.... tho playing a build like that makes me super sloppy

anyways...


after realizing the true power of MF gear and how many rare loots/uniques i was getting....

I have to agree with the OP FULLY

MF gear is an archaic mechanic that should be removed from this fantastic game.
Game becomes stale and pingeonholed into certain builds to get the good loots....



GGG.... you dont have to be Diablo 3.... be yourself!


Congratulations for getting crappy ilevel 65- yellows that everybody and their sister can buy for a few chaos without gettin enough XP to make them worthwile. And gg for playing the FOTM build and thinking that MF has something to do with it.



wow, an elitist....

ok, first i could easily keep playing softcore but that is so boring.

Second, I was only playing the dual spork build for low-life MF whoring, never said the build was the issue.....it is just so easy to build that while maintaining ridiculous MF.

Last, dont get butt-hurt when ppl are trying to IMPROVE the design of the game for future play..... clearly the OP has many valid points as to why MF is a dog-shit way to play this game.
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Nephalim wrote:
I personally find mf worthless but i can understand the feeling of being forced use a certain item affix in order to play optimally - in my case, its +exp gear.



If MF is "worthless" then getting loot is "worthless"

LOGIC
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xank wrote:
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Nephalim wrote:
I personally find mf worthless but i can understand the feeling of being forced use a certain item affix in order to play optimally - in my case, its +exp gear.



If MF is "worthless" then getting loot is "worthless"

LOGIC

Because loot doesn't drop if you have no/little MF gear?

Logic.
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WUlf1337 wrote:
Remove all MF, give 2 Map types (exp and MF). Or remove MF completely. I wouldn't shed a single tear.


Neither would I
Tough I prefer to play a MF char and always make MF oriented builds I highly agree with the OP for removing MF.

Yes, removing it completly would be the right direction.

It really hurts build diversity. Personally I dont want to try out certain builds, just because I know that they will not be farming fast though they might be fun to play.


What I would do ist:

-introduce 2 map types (XP and farm as the OP said)

-remove death penalty

-reintroduce MF depending on KILLSPEED and SURVIVABILITY
meaning: if you kill monsters fast you gain MF and if you die, you will lost MF


MF is the prefect example why we should always question old things and dont take them as granted, because its right: if you look at it with an unbiased mind from far away its just garbage and doesnt improve anything.

The only thing it does: Make you feel bad if you dont have MF (whether its a non MF char or an MF char without maxed MF)
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xank wrote:
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Nephalim wrote:
I personally find mf worthless but i can understand the feeling of being forced use a certain item affix in order to play optimally - in my case, its +exp gear.



If MF is "worthless" then getting loot is "worthless"

LOGIC


Believe it or not, some players have advanced past grinding docks 24/7 and the item potential of even ilvl 72 rares is for the most part negligible once you have reached a certain gear and wealth mark.


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jcmjx wrote:
after paragon levels were added, the game actually become better.


became.
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Last edited by KalHirol#0543 on Jun 29, 2013, 5:05:24 AM
Saying D3 became better after paragon levels were added is true, but very misleading.

I mean, if PoE had a level cap of 60, and then we let players progress past 60 by giving them both skill points and IIQ, and we let them progress that way until level 160, then we'd pretty much have the D3 paragon system.

The part that made sense about paragon levels was: 60 as a level cap is fucking stupid, so up it. Thankfully, PoE doesn't have this problem, so this part is irrelevant.

The part that didn't and still doesn't make sense about paragon levels was/is: let's tack on a bunch of MF for no reason other than making the MF gear we put in the game useless instead of nerfing it directly like we really want to because we treat our players like children and we feel the need to trick them into things.

Even then, paragon 100 was difficult enough to achieve that the quickly devaluing MF gear was a good buy for players who weren't planning on rushing their XP gains.

PoE does have the problem of MF affixes. The question, I guess, is whether to pull a paragon and try to pull wool over the eyes of the players, or be upfront about it and just nerf MF affixes directly while increasing base drops to compensate.
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Last edited by ScrotieMcB#2697 on Jun 29, 2013, 5:54:27 AM
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ScrotieMcB wrote:

PoE does have the problem of MF affixes. The question, I guess, is whether to pull a paragon and try to pull wool over the eyes of the players, or be upfront about it and just nerf MF affixes directly while increasing base drops to compensate.


Or you could simply stop to ask for a buff becuase you don't like MF.

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