Why does Lioneye's Glare have no drawback?

maybe i should have explained what i mean with build power level

what can you do with Lionseye of course use it with bow skills like lightning arrow chain lmp

or physical crit split arrow pierce/chain maybe if funny ice shot

and these builds have a decent clearspeed from a power level skala 1-10 a decent 6-7


that was just an example where 10 is a discharge build when there would be no reflect
and shavrones+voidbattery used for builds in range 8-9 hell even 10

a LG builds like splitarrow/LA never come close to this

you can clearly see this powerlevel in PVP dude i tell you any bowbuild sucks

and freezepulse shavrones can oneshot other people

Edit: for marohi Erqui i agree or lets say i wouldnt have a problem to remove the hammer's penalty as melee builds generally have a bad position
Last edited by zzang on Jun 25, 2013, 2:49:23 PM
Bows have to be balanced among themselves. You can't justify an OP bow by saing that spells are even more OP, it's extremely short sighted.

People also need to ralise that no one is asking for LG to be made useless. It only needs a small nerf. As it is now it's killing diveristy in bow builds. That is really not a good thing.
The balance of bows vs spells will be alot easier to deal with without an OP unique aswell.
Ah, so you're only looking at damage. This is an issue. Shav + 2x void batteries cannot run many map mods or a combination of those mods. You've mentioned discharge and reflect, although when solo in maps, there are other issues.

This game is not, nor will ever be balanced around PvP. If you want to destroy a shav RF build, use flammability with ele weakness :)

it was just an example and the raw damage is just one aspect with reference to pve maps these builds are pretty viable and have enough survival if not running crazy mods of course we have a different opinion about crazy mods and combinations i guess but i like it easy blame me for that.

never said to balance around pvp also not said that its a problem to oneshot people it surely have its weakness i just made some examples to make understandable what i mean with power level in reagrd with pve content.

doesnt change the fact that the end result when the bow is implemted in the build is not by far as OP as a shavrones and void battery implemented well in a build.

you just look at the item and like it to be nerfed because that will weaken the bow builds in general even more and the disparity to spell users will be bigger.

this lead into build destruction not build variety
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zzang wrote:

you just look at the item and like it to be nerfed because that will weaken the bow builds in general even more and the disparity to spell users will be bigger.

this lead into build destruction not build variety


Bow builds can be buffed in a way that doesn't kill diveristy it self. Don't be so narrowminded and short sighted.
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Sickness wrote:
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zzang wrote:

you just look at the item and like it to be nerfed because that will weaken the bow builds in general even more and the disparity to spell users will be bigger.

this lead into build destruction not build variety


Bow builds can be buffed in a way that doesn't kill diveristy it self. Don't be so narrowminded and short sighted.


im not but how would you buff bowbuilds in a system where accuracy sucks other bows with the same damage are harder to get and crit is almost always not a option due to accuracy sucks and RT is the way to go.

Edit: The Best Buff would be a similar dps bow with no always hit but accuracy and crit chance/multiplier to give variety not to take the only one

or a kind of marohi bow with slightly more damage but can not crit effect (also no always hit but therefore massive dmg)
Last edited by zzang on Jun 25, 2013, 3:22:28 PM
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zzang wrote:
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Sickness wrote:
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zzang wrote:

you just look at the item and like it to be nerfed because that will weaken the bow builds in general even more and the disparity to spell users will be bigger.

this lead into build destruction not build variety


Bow builds can be buffed in a way that doesn't kill diveristy it self. Don't be so narrowminded and short sighted.


im not but how would you buff bowbuilds in a system where accuracy sucks other bows with the same damage are harder to get and crit is almost always not a option due to accuracy sucks and RT is the way to go.

Edit: The Best Buff would be a similar dps bow with no always hit but accuracy and crit chance/multiplier to give variety not to take the only one

or a kind of marohi bow with slightly more damage but can not crit effect (also no always hit but therefore massive dmg)


Just increase the damage of the skills or bows in general, or increase damage from nodes in the tree. Or simply nerf the OP spells. ONE OP bow certainly isn't a good solution.
I would prefer it if this was an erqiesque bow. Give it huge dmg, leave the always hit, but attach a -20% AS, and -10% MS onto it.
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SL4Y3R wrote:
I would prefer it if this was an erqiesque bow. Give it huge dmg, leave the always hit, but attach a -20% AS, and -10% MS onto it.


now we talking :)

i have also thought about an armor similar to fortitude in diablo 2 which gives lets say physical dmg bonus with some resist all and life im not sure from balance perspective to restrict the dmg bonus to just bows or general physical as i think physical in general could be better than it is now.

Also a nice adition a Keynode similar to vaalpackt but just works for manaleech and regen
Last edited by zzang on Jun 25, 2013, 4:21:57 PM
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SL4Y3R wrote:
I would prefer it if this was an erqiesque bow. Give it huge dmg, leave the always hit, but attach a -20% AS, and -10% MS onto it.


When this happens, I say fuck Ranger builds. Sorry for the profanity, but this bow is the ONLY good thing going on for Rangers.
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