Why does Lioneye's Glare have no drawback?

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Catchafire2000 wrote:

Let them fucking nerf the damn bow then. But if they don't do shit to all the other BROKEN fucking unique items in the game, then I will be upset.

The plain truth is that given the choice between a Kaom's, LG, or Shavs I will always... ALWAYS choose a Kaom's or Shavs.

What is so fucking hard to understand about that? People claim that Kaom's has a drawback? Who gives a damn if there are no sockets in the item???

To call out a bow, and not admit that there are other broken items in the game (even if they have supposed drawbacks) is down right hypocritical.

The problem is that YOU ARE NOT UNDERSTAND that Kaoms, or Shavs, are not broken because the items are broken

Kaoms is broken because life is so valuable. Its the same reason why glass cannons (outside of Summoners or dual spork) is basically unplayable currently <- THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH KAOMS

Shavronns is broken because chaos damage, is generally too high (which also goes hand in hand with the above point). The concept of chaos damage is also stupid, which is another debate altogether <- THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SHAVRONNS

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deteego wrote:

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Courageous wrote:

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deteego wrote:

...and now we are paying the price.

I'm not really seeing it. What's this "price"?

An unbalanced game?

I mean obviously the people with Lioneyes are enjoying it, but stuff like this just causes imbalances in the economy, as it causes people to progress much faster than they should (and while PoE is balanced around an economy, which it currently is, than it is a real problem)

They're still making uniques. They have a real lot more to go, counting up all the Diamond supporters. So make more uniques like Lioneye's. Problem solved.

The unique items are very much in progress.

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Courageous wrote:

They're still making uniques. They have a real lot more to go, counting up all the Diamond supporters. So make more uniques like Lioneye's. Problem solved.

The unique items are very much in progress.

Actually apart from Lioneyes, the other uniques are pretty much balanced. There are uniques right now which are very sought after, but thats an indirect result of the other imbalances in the game (such as life), not a result of the unique itself

The problem with Lioneyes was a result of a knee jerk reaction, which causes GGG to massively buff the item when it needed no buff

The problem with making every unique broken is it just causes the same issues that D3 had, where the majority of loot was useless apart from the really rare top tier stuff

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deteego wrote:

The problem is that YOU ARE NOT UNDERSTAND that Kaoms, or Shavs, are not broken because the items are broken

And how is this any different? With LG its Accuracy.

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deteego wrote:

Kaoms is broken because life is so valuable. Its the same reason why glass cannons (outside of Summoners or dual spork) is basically unplayable currently <- THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH KAOMS

Have you seen a Kaom's lately? The damn item has 1000 HP. How is that not a broken item? The item is so damn broken, that GGG chose not to include it in there new leagues... This has everything to do with Kaom's.

Have you tried a Ranger or Bow build Deteego? I'll let you use my bow if you want. Level up a Ranger, preferably, and you will see that there are more things wrong with bow builds if you start as a Ranger that are of more important than a Lion Eyes. The whole Bow/Ranger concept is extremely boring.

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Lyralei wrote:

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deteego wrote:

The problem is that YOU ARE NOT UNDERSTAND that Kaoms, or Shavs, are not broken because the items are broken

And how is this any different? With LG its Accuracy.

You can get that accuracy via means outside of the bow in exchange for sacrificing crit. This is also important to note because bows have an inherently low crit chance, and the majority of bow users do not have ANY crit.

Also, you don't want to be retconning flavor text and lore when there are ways of fixing it via other means.

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Lyralei wrote:

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deteego wrote:

The problem is that YOU ARE NOT UNDERSTAND that Kaoms, or Shavs, are not broken because the items are broken

And how is this any different? With LG its Accuracy.

GGG hasn't ever indicated that there is an issue with accuracy. They have indicated there are issues with Life and Chaos

So its reasonable to assume those things will be fixed (and hence fix items such as Lioneyes and Kaoms and Shavronnes). With accuracy, its anyones guess, but I don't see GGG changing it anytime soon

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Catchafire2000 wrote:

Have you seen a Kaom's lately? The damn item has 1000 HP. How is that not a broken item?

Its because its relative. 1000 life is as useful as life is useful. If life (as an attribute) is not that useful, than 1k life is not going to be (that) useful. Sure someone may have Kaoms, but someone else may have another 6 slot chest piece which allows them to instagib the entire screen the whole time

Which do you find more useful?

The reason why Kaoms is broken is because of how mandatory, and how much life is needed. The important thing is, GGG has acknowledged this, and they have said they will fix the issue with life. They have also said that when this happens, Kaoms will not be as broken for that reason

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deteego wrote:

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Lyralei wrote:

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deteego wrote:

The problem is that YOU ARE NOT UNDERSTAND that Kaoms, or Shavs, are not broken because the items are broken

And how is this any different? With LG its Accuracy.

GGG hasn't ever indicated that there is an issue with accuracy. They have indicated there are issues with Life and Chaos

So its reasonable to assume those things will be fixed (and hence fix items such as Lioneyes and Kaoms and Shavronnes). With accuracy, its anyones guess, but I don't see GGG changing it anytime soon

Oh trust me, there's an issue with accuracy. Try a genuine Ranger/Dex build and you will find out for yourself. Your only option is to get RT or... a Lion Eye's Bow. Which...

"The problem with Lioneyes was a result of a knee jerk reaction, which causes GGG to massively buff the item when it needed no buff"


Is why I believe they buffed it to begin with. Bows/Rangers need a lot of work. The game doesn't need more low life enabling uniques/node changes.

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deteego wrote:

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Lyralei wrote:

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deteego wrote:

The problem is that YOU ARE NOT UNDERSTAND that Kaoms, or Shavs, are not broken because the items are broken

And how is this any different? With LG its Accuracy.

GGG hasn't ever indicated that there is an issue with accuracy. They have indicated there are issues with Life and Chaos

So its reasonable to assume those things will be fixed (and hence fix items such as Lioneyes and Kaoms and Shavronnes). With accuracy, its anyones guess, but I don't see GGG changing it anytime soon

And you need their confirmation to realise that it IS an issue? I'm a level 94 fucking Ranger. I shouldn't have to worry about accuracy WHEN MY CLASS IS BASED AND FOCUSED ON IT.


That 5% hit chance that I can never get is the difference between life and death for me in a 77 map where I need to leech ALL the time. That is the reason why I cannot switch from a LG.

That doesn't go to say that I think it shouldn't come with a drawback. The Resolute Technique one made sense. I just want to highlight the underlying problem that exacerbates why LG is seen as mandatory.