Lioneye's Glare - Possibility for a nerf on an overpowered item?

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Fruz wrote:

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You already know the max roll on a bow is 550+ dps. Just wait until somebody with a lot of currency realizes how much better there can be.[...]

I wasn't talking about a max rolled ES chest, just about a high rolled one.
something that actually exists.
The first almost perfect phys bow will be mirrored ? what a prediction man !


And I don't give a crap about D2. never played it, don't care.

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First I said multiple mirrors in the FEE alone. Not that it will be mirrored, that's obvious. Secondly I mention d2 because the same argument happened there from the out of the loop players. They thought a unique bow called windforce was the best bow in the game. But it wasn't. Kind of like here. Basically, you aren't in the know or are in denial. ~_~

Anyway a perfect LG would be 334.53~ dps. Which is about 220 dps less than the perfect bow, even more when you factor in armor. To put that difference in perspective, that's like the average persons bow at lvl60 playing without their weapon excluding talents. (if that were possible)

P.S. Please get to crafting people!

As i already said, there can be much better rare bows than lioneye´s glare.
Not just by a small margin, but by a huge margin.
20 more dps on a weapon is huge, but we are not talking about 20 more dps.
The max roll is atleast 550dps as i already calculated, if the devs introduced ilvl 79 physical affixes, that might even go beyond 600 dps.

Lioneyes is nowhere close to OP... not even close.
Just drop it already.

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Fruz wrote:

I don't need friends from a forum, I have some IG, oops.
Probably you should stop polluting this thread plz, do that.
You talked about stop here like 3 or 4 posts ago, why don't you do it now ?

What is the relation between cordiality and something being true ?
There isn't.
And half of what you said in an aggressiv way is not relevant.
So you should really be careful about this.

How am i polluting your thread? You've done a great jobb already yourself. Giving "facts" out that dosnt even work in reality, saying you cant compare it to a shavroons beacuse rares can roll higher ES. Wich brings us back to square one. Rare bows can roll a much higher dmg out put then Lioneye.

But then you will tell me, "but you can always hit with a lioneye but can also crit" wich isnt good at all. Some takes RT beacuse they dont want to crit. Fear of death and so on. And like some one pointed out here. Dead dps isnt that good.

And on your PS. Oh no, i edited FACK. So sorry.

Oh god. Grow up.

/thread

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Fruz wrote:

you know that the probability to get such and item it so low that it will probably never happen, right ?

i dont agree

never say never

I said "probably" never =P
Of course, there is a chance, but well ....
No today at least !

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beacuse rares can roll higher ES. Wich brings us back to square one. Rare bows can roll a much higher dmg out put then Lioneye.

There are many 800+ ES rares in the game.
I dare you to find one 500+dps bow.
it is possible.
but good luck, really.
With a LG, all you need is divineto have a correct or good one.
And no, I will jsut tell you "read the thread, it will allow you to avoid saying things that have already been said".
and for the rest I will just go with "rofl".
pretty much self explanatory.

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The max roll is atleast 550dps as i already calculated

the thing is : find me one.


If there would be affixes of level 90 with maps lvl 90 would you say "a 450 dps bow is shit, you can get 650+ dps bow with the lvl 90 affixes !" ?
I bet yes.

( For those who wouldn't understand yet, the main point is : "LG gives too much versatiliy, too much dps, and is not rare enough too be balanced" )

Obviously the 400+ dps bow should be rarer than a lioneyes, THEY ARE BETTER.
Dont quite understand what you are trying to say here.
You make it out to be that everyone is running around with a lioneyes, which is not even remotely true.

A lioneyes is shit compared to a 400 dps bow, thats why a bow like that, by definition, should be rarer than a lioneyes, which is the case, therefore i dont need to find you one. Your points make no sense whatsoever.

well you can keep reading half of the words ... or you could read them all.
And if you don't understand my point ... well, I feel sad for you.

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gh0un wrote:

Obviously the 400+ dps bow should be rarer than a lioneyes, THEY ARE BETTER.
Dont quite understand what you are trying to say here.
You make it out to be that everyone is running around with a lioneyes, which is not even remotely true.

A lioneyes is shit compared to a 400 dps bow, thats why a bow like that, by definition, should be rarer than a lioneyes, which is the case, therefore i dont need to find you one. Your points make no sense whatsoever.

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riptid3 wrote:

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Fruz wrote:

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You already know the max roll on a bow is 550+ dps. Just wait until somebody with a lot of currency realizes how much better there can be.[...]

I wasn't talking about a max rolled ES chest, just about a high rolled one.
something that actually exists.
The first almost perfect phys bow will be mirrored ? what a prediction man !


And I don't give a crap about D2. never played it, don't care.

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First I said multiple mirrors in the FEE alone. Not that it will be mirrored, that's obvious. Secondly I mention d2 because the same argument happened there from the out of the loop players. They thought a unique bow called windforce was the best bow in the game. But it wasn't. Kind of like here. Basically, you aren't in the know or are in denial. ~_~

Anyway a perfect LG would be 334.53~ dps. Which is about 220 dps less than the perfect bow, even more when you factor in armor. To put that difference in perspective, that's like the average persons bow at lvl60 playing without their weapon excluding talents. (if that were possible)

P.S. Please get to crafting people!

Until you factor in the fact that LG will never miss, which means that you can run crit damage/chance on the bow (which you cant do if you are running Resolute Technique). Either that, or you are forced to use increased accuracy on that other bow, which basically puts it at -1 gem slot

Everyone that is just taking raw DPS values of lioneyes are doing a disservice, the massive part of Lioneyes is the fact that due it never missing

1. Rangers do not need to travel halfway across the passive tree to get RT (which frees up more room for other nodes)
2. Allows the ranger, to you know, use crit damage and crit chance, which you cant do with RT

As I said, the only reason that LG is not considered OP right now is because of how shit physical damage is in general (especially for non melee characters that do not have access to heavy strike or other similar things)

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gh0un wrote:

A lioneyes is shit compared to a 400 dps bow, thats why a bow like that, by definition, should be rarer than a lioneyes, which is the case, therefore i dont need to find you one. Your points make no sense whatsoever.

Show me a 400 DPS bow that always hits

Because until you do, Lioneyes actual DPS, when you factor in crit chance/crit damage + extra nodes that you save from not having to travel across the tree, it will most likely be higher than that 400 DPS bow ;)

1) Top tier rare bow would be better.
2) Someone payed 1k $ to make Lioneye to play his pew pew pew ranger, so it's aint changing, there u have it.