Lioneye's Glare - Possibility for a nerf on an overpowered item?

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Fruz wrote:

comparing 50-60 dps to 500 flat ES.
You're a funny one.

So there are 10 bows on the default market that have more dps than a lioneye's glare ....
do you call that a lot ?
it is a few.
( and LG can be rolled higher than that btw, except you only need divines to improve it, not tons of chaos without even being sure to get an okay tri ele bow after 100+ of them ).

And have you noticed that 1/3 of the bows which dps is between 300 and 500 atm are LG ?
it being a unique item, I don't find it quite balanced.

You already know the max roll on a bow is 550+ dps. Just wait until somebody with a lot of currency realizes how much better there can be.

All it takes is 1 person with the currency or luck to do it. Then people will start calculating the odds it will take to get 220+ ipd and top tier phys + ias and how many good but not THE bows they'll get on the way. They'll realize it's profitable since you can bet the first bows over 400 will go for a lot and then those over 500dps. I expect the first one will go for multiple mirrors in fees. I know if I had it, that's what I'd charge and people WILL pay it.


Anyway, I'm not sure if you played d2 but if you played prior to 1.10 you'd probably know a cruel mat bow of evisc was the best bow, but it was much rarer than windforce. It's the same thing here. Btw I cubed 3 295+/60+ cruel mats if I ever attain the amount of currency required to play the odds here in PoE, I will.

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Fruz wrote:

comparing 50-60 dps to 500 flat ES.
You're a funny one.

So there are 10 bows on the default market that have more dps than a lioneye's glare ....
do you call that a lot ?
it is a few.
( and LG can be rolled higher than that btw, except you only need divines to improve it, not tons of chaos without even being sure to get an okay tri ele bow after 100+ of them ).

And have you noticed that 1/3 of the bows which dps is between 300 and 500 atm are LG ?
it being a unique item, I don't find it quite balanced.

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I hate to cut the majority of your post but, Shavronne's is more common than LG. One is ilvl 62 the other ilvl 66. Essentially one can only drop from rares/piety + maps in lunaris 3 and the other can drop anywhere in act 3 and in some places of act 2. It's just that LG has been in since OB started, Shavronne's is much more recent.

Are you aware that each unique has it's own probability to drop ?
and that most of the high lvl players are doing maps ( starting at .... lvl 66 ).
I don't usually check the shops for this items, but I've not seen a lot being sold.
I'm not looking it. since the ES sucks and I don't need the other bonuses.
It needs a particular build to be build arround by the way, LG is miles away from that.

Erm, you know the one thats first of the lioneyes in that list? ITS 3% away from PERFECT. It cant be better then a rare. "much higher" Its like 0.2 dps more. Stop saying stuff you clearly have no idea about.

And those bows are the only ones on the market. If you knew what a indexer is. There is probably more rares out there that surpas those in the indexer atm. And Lioneye will ofc be more of beacuse its A FIXED unique with FIXED stats. Its not OP, beacuse its not THAT much better then the decent bows out there.

God this thread is retarded. I will stop there, just some jelly guy, that dosnt want others to have fun in a game. And your logic is nice. WE SHOULD not compare LG with other high end bows beacuse they are so rare. But high rolled ES chests are not? Thats whort using that is. DAMN.

So much stupidity in one thread. Cant take it.

Pst, this is the currently highest ES shields for sale.

http://poe.xyz.is/search?league=Default&shield_min=500&shield_max=1400&time=2013-04-08

And shavs.

http://poe.xyz.is/search?league=Default&rarity=unique&shield_min=500&shield_max=1400&time=2013-04-08

ES chests with 800+ ES thats usable are VERY expensive.

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zzang wrote:

yes im comparing 50-60k this is 60 000 4 zeros of DPS to 500 flat es

dont know whats funny about

I wasn't talking to you .......
sorry !
anyway, you know that RF build are not dependant of this item, right ?
It just makes it easier to achieve.

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You already know the max roll on a bow is 550+ dps. Just wait until somebody with a lot of currency realizes how much better there can be.[...]

I wasn't talking about a max rolled ES chest, just about a high rolled one.
something that actually exists.
The first almost perfect phys bow will be mirrored ? what a prediction man !


And I don't give a crap about D2. never played it, don't care.

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Erm, you know the one thats first of the lioneyes in that list? ITS 3% away from PERFECT. It cant be better then a rare. "much higher" Its like 0.2 dps more. Stop saying stuff you clearly have no idea about.

the first of the list was ~330 dps.
I've seen lioneye's with 360 if I'm not mistaking.

LG is not only about dps, but it's dps is still really high.
And yes, please, stop here.

Pst : it takes 2 or 3 rolls ( or three in the best case ) to get a really high ES chest.
You need at least 3 or 4 for a bow, which becomes much harder then ( 3 for the elements, 1 for IAS ).
and btw, the first result of the list has 0% qual if you didn't notice.

360 dps?

Are. You. Fucking. Kidding. Me?

How does 3% more psy % ad 30+ more dps?

SIGH!

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/330026

Currently the highest rolled one. It has 331,2 dps and is 3% away from perfect. Stop making stuff up.

IDK, maybe because there are acutally 2 physical rolls on LG ?
now plz, stop here as you said earlier.
Everyone notices you could use the shop indexer, congratz for that !

( And if it was possible not to speak about shavrone's anymore, maybe the item is too powerful, but it still has drawbacks, still it's NOT ABOUT IT here ).

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Fruz wrote:

anyway, you know that RF build are not dependant of this item, right ?
It just makes it easier to achieve.

and you know without shavrones you will never reach that level of dps and also


lets take a Imperial Bow as example: 16-66 Base damage now add Flaring mod (prefix) 25-45 local physical damage making it to a 41-111 local physical% damage roll Tyrannical mod (prefix): 169% + emperors mod (80% physical dmg and 135 accuracy) so thats 41-111 with added 249% damage

equals 143-387 max damage if my math didnt fail here now add critical chance and damage mods with Ias as suffix and you have more than double the DPS of a LG.

lets calculate the theoretical dps of that rare perfect rolled bow 143+387=530/2 = 265X 1.74=

461 Dps Bow

(the 1.74 comes from 1.5 base attack speed X 1.16 (of grandmaster suffix)

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Fruz wrote:

IDK, maybe because there are acutally 2 physical rolls on LG ?
now plz, stop here as you said earlier.
Everyone notices you could use the shop indexer, congrats for that !

Congrats in not knowing nothing about the game and making stuff up.

Is math that hard for you? Let me make it simple for you

The bow lioneye's glare can have a max roll of -

175% Increased pysical damage

Adds 12-32 physical damage

20% attack speed

100 to maximum mana.

THIS bow

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/330026

Is 1 away from perfect mana and 3% away from perfect IPD %.

How does that add up to 30 more dps? Yep. Like i said, you dont know what you talk about. Yet again.

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And It sounds like you know more about the game then i do. Fuck me. I dont even think you've owned a Lioneye to see the diffrence. Thats the sad part about this whole thread.

though the second phys roll could be higher, 340 dps should be the max then, my bad.
Should have checked the max rolls before.

Btw, this is a forum and it is about a game, becareful about what you say, you could get banned or something, plus having such a reaction about a game is not useful in life, really.
Didn't understand your part about edit dates btw, I don't see how it could be relelvant since I don't do it to change lost arguments and it didn't happen from me on this thread.

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equals 143-387 max damage if my math didnt fail here now add critical chance and damage mods with Ias as suffix and you have more than double the DPS of a LG.

you know that the probability to get such and item it so low that it will probably never happen, right ?

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Fruz wrote:

though the second phys roll could be higher, 340 dps should be the max then, my bad.
Should have checked the max rolls before.

Btw, this is a forum and it is about a game, becareful about what you say, you could get banned or something, plus having such a reaction about a game is not useful in life, really.

And making up stuff wont get you many friends. I'm just mad at you beacuse you have no clue what you talk about. Thats what makes me mad. And that others agrees with you just makes me sad.

Probably should play the game more and less QQ on the uniques. And go for the more important stuff? And banned? For brining out facts and proving you wrong?

Please, PM any forum mod and ask them for a bann beacuse of me pointing out facts. In a aggresive matter yes. But it dosnt make it less true.

I don't need friends from a forum, I have some IG, oops.
Probably you should stop polluting this thread plz, do that.
You talked about stop here like 3 or 4 posts ago, why don't you do it now ?

What is the relation between cordiality and something being true ?
There isn't.
And half of what you said in an aggressiv way is not relevant.
So you should really be careful about this.
PS : seems you edited part of it, oh snap, looks like you were worried after.
Now, can you leave ?