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" Mark_GGG wrote: " Aim_Deep wrote: They could change the numerical values easy on the other OP legacies just like they knocked granite flasks from 4000 to 3000 despite thousands out there, they just don't want to. Making legacy Kaoms 500 life would be same thing as granite change. No, it would not. The granite change was to the base item type. All such changes necessarily change all items of that type. Changing Kaoms would be a change to the value of a specific mod on the item. This requires doing an item migration with a custom script, resulting in massive downtime while migrating every item on the realm. The equivalent of the Granite change for Kaoms would be changing the base armour of Glorious Plates (which we could do, and would affect existing ones). Changing the value or a rolled mod is entirely different. The base value of the Granite Flask type, like the base value of the armour rating on Glorious Plates, is stored in a lookup table which all items of that type point to, rather than all that data being duplicated by separately storing that information in each item of the type. Thus changing that data would only be a change in one place, and would always affect all items of the type. By contrast, the value of the rolled unique mod on Kaom's Heart is stored in the specific item it was rolled on, like all other rolled mods. Because mods by their nature must support the ability for two instances to have different values. Thus changing this requires changing it separately on each item changed, and won't affect other items. With Crown of Eyes, we did not change the value of a mod (which would have made old ones legacy), we changed the mechanic it uses to work differently - we effectively changed the game mechanic the item uses, not the item itself. Each item stores the mod it has, and it's value, neither of which changed. What that mod causes to happen changes, and that of course isn't something stored separately in each item, but in code that modifies calculations. This isn't the first time this has happened (Volls comes to mind), and it may not be the last. it has me quite worried people accept "its too difficult" as a valid argument from the devs, its not nearly impossible/ takes an astronomic amount of time to switch these mods.	Posted by nielsgaljaard on Aug 11, 2014, 5:11:31 PM Quote this Post
Every time an unique is nerfed, it should become bind on account until a divine is used. Problem solved. If you create a legacy item, people will cry. If you nerf all items without making legacy, people that bought it to speculate or use it will cry. Making it BoA until using a divine will punish only the ones who want to buy them for speculation, the ones that make this game much worse because they want to control everything (remember that is a game balanced around an economy) just hoarding them making them more and more expensive and less accesible on temp leagues just for selfish and greedy reasons. And that's the game GGG created with all their decisions. Oh, divines are too expensive? Yeah, because their drop rate was reduced even more just because the economy. The game could be so much better if the economy wherent so important on every step GGG makes. ♠RaGoN♦ Last edited by RaGoNXIII on Aug 11, 2014, 5:24:50 PM	Posted by RaGoNXIII on Aug 11, 2014, 5:16:49 PM Quote this Post
" SL4Y3R wrote: " Veruski wrote: " Tanakeah wrote: which is what I think you're referring to? ...Uh, no. That was the same as a public announcement, but I am quite positive that people knew well before that announcement. If you're referring to alpha, we don't know anything about legacy changes. It's not pertinent to testing. The build of the game you guys use on alpha don't have the items modifications? I mean, did you (or any other) never found an unique (low or high level) with future changes? ♠RaGoN♦	Posted by RaGoNXIII on Aug 11, 2014, 5:21:52 PM Quote this Post
" RaGoNXIII wrote: " SL4Y3R wrote: If you're referring to alpha, we don't know anything about legacy changes. It's not pertinent to testing. The build of the game you guys use on alpha don't have the items modifications? I mean, did you (or any other) never found an unique (low or high level) with future changes? It's maybe a reaction to past feedback about unique item change leaks. It's really a wonder that Alpha testers get used at all. Last time I heard that GGG didn't use them anymore.	Posted by Nightmare90 on Aug 11, 2014, 5:31:54 PM Quote this Post
The REALLY frightening part is... the patch notes are not even out yet, and many have already lost 1/3 of their dmg. DISCLAIMER! The views and expressed opinions of Dragon are solely those of a drunken redneck and are not necessarily those of a sane person. Any likeness of intelligence is strictly coincidental and should not be taken seriously. His posts should not be read... by anyone. Last edited by Dragon585 on Aug 11, 2014, 6:23:56 PM	Posted by Dragon585 on Aug 11, 2014, 5:37:35 PM Quote this Post
" Dragon585 wrote: The REALLY frightening part is... the patch note are not even out yet, and many have already lost 1/3 of their dmg. Everyone knew it was gunna happen xD IGN: Chundaziri 8/8 Ambush/Invasion Complete - 21/06/2014 8/8 Warbands/Tempest Complete - 10/08/2015	Posted by Chundadragon on Aug 11, 2014, 5:51:43 PM Quote this Post
@Ragon We do occasionally find some high lvl uniques. But we're a pretty small group of people. The majority of our playtime is spent running various characters through the game. Testing changes and bug hunting. There's very little point in farming for high lvl uniques. Or divining them if we found one. It would be a waste of valuable time.	Posted by SL4Y3R on Aug 11, 2014, 6:08:21 PM Banned Quote this Post
" Dragon585 wrote: The REALLY frightening part is... the patch notes are not even out yet, and many have already lost 1/3 of their dmg. If they aren't intelligent enough to find ways to make it up, that is their loss. "Danger is like jello, there's always room for more." http://www.twitch.tv/vejita00	Posted by CliveHowlitzer on Aug 11, 2014, 6:34:27 PM Quote this Post
you whine when they make legacy items , and you whine when they don't make legacy items . crown of eyes was , and probably still is op, just like having spectral throw on daggars was and is still op. just like two handers continue to be up until ggg finds a way for them to scale as well as one handers just like the sky is blue , grass is green and the sun is giant ball of nuclear fusion hell fire. get over it , you win some and you lose some , considering you have all that other fun stuff that is legacy , Im thinking you need to be grateful for the bunches of op legacy stuff you do have , mr op. complaining over this nerf is just silly.	Posted by Saltychipmunk on Aug 11, 2014, 6:36:18 PM Quote this Post
" CliveHowlitzer wrote: If they aren't intelligent enough to find ways to make it up, that is their loss. Intelligence is not welcome here!!! DISCLAIMER! The views and expressed opinions of Dragon are solely those of a drunken redneck and are not necessarily those of a sane person. Any likeness of intelligence is strictly coincidental and should not be taken seriously. His posts should not be read... by anyone. Last edited by Dragon585 on Aug 11, 2014, 6:41:52 PM	Posted by Dragon585 on Aug 11, 2014, 6:38:59 PM Quote this Post