The new portal system is a good compromise

I've been thinking about something...

So... today we got 6 portals on poe1....
So a character can make a party with 6 players...

with new system... with only 1 portal...
How your party get in the map?

So no more parties on tier 15? It will be solo play only? (yeah, I know, no one share maps atm, it wont matter)

Or... on tier 1 with 6 portals....
Every player in party can get in and out 6 times, going for like 36 ins and outs?


It would be REALLY simple if they only put something like:
portals: 6
Deaths by character: X (1 to 6)

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GatoPreto1718#7829 wrote:

I've been thinking about something...

So... today we got 6 portals on poe1....
So a character can make a party with 6 players...

with new system... with only 1 portal...
How your party get in the map?

So no more parties on tier 15? It will be solo play only? (yeah, I know, no one share maps atm, it wont matter)

Or... on tier 1 with 6 portals....
Every player in party can get in and out 6 times, going for like 36 ins and outs?


It would be REALLY simple if they only put something like:
portals: 6
Deaths by character: X (1 to 6)

So the running theory is that you will get 6 portal “entries” if you are running a 6 mod map but if you die the portal is deleted. This means you can portal out and sell sometime up to 6 times. If you have a team they will most likely make it so the team can enter the portal but that’s all 6 “entries” there might be a system additionally for boss respawns but we don’t know what that is.

Additionally a misconception i keep seeing is that t15s are one portal. This is incorrect. The number of portals is determined by the number of mods on the map. You can run a white T15 and have 6 respawns. Or a rare with 3 mods and have 3 respawns. But if you have 6 mods on your way stone then and only then do you have 1 try. So if you are dying a lot with 1 try you can lessen the number of mods before needing to reduce map tier.

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Daxgalex#6239 wrote:

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CovidPatientZero#0332 wrote:

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FruitLord#0833 wrote:

New portal system is worse for the players who played endgame more than 2h and gave up. If you made it to T15s and did the grind, all that just became a worse experience due to single portal. No trading, no multiple inventory trips, etc.

I won't be playing with this new portal system in place for sure. But I also don't want it reverted to single death and 6 portals. It just isn't fun.

They are just going to drive away players with this garbage. Eliminate the extreme death penalties and just give players with less than x amount of deaths some pretty cosmetics for bragging rights. Even 2.5% exp loss on death + 6 portals would be tolerable, but they just can't settle

They will not drive away players. PoE 2 has been an incredible success, even in its barebones 0.1 state. Players like you quitting the game mean nothing, no supporter icons and private profile. You are the minority, because your take on the death consequences is bad.

EDIT: I think I misread your comment, that you were talking about IF they leave it so that you literally can’t leave the map. YES I agree that would be insane and might actually kill the game. However, they said they want/will change that, but they weren’t sure if it will be in 0.2 launch. Which would suck balls.

My bad

Yeah no worries. I actually really enjoyed the game throughout the campaign and early endgame. Once I leveled over 90 it just turned into a chore. If, from the start, they said they were changing portal mechanics to only disappear on death I wouldn't even post about it.

It's just pathetically sad that they announced this new change then admitted in the interview that they will have to think about how it affects loot and trade. That just shows they are completely clueless and set in their ways. I really don't understand the complete disconnect between the developers and the community. The reason I'm so negative is because it's a game with tremendous potential that is being completely butchered by the decisions since launch.

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hboi#6131 wrote:

The game is not going to die because you and your friends are scrubs and are going to quit the game because you dont get infinite respawns so you can brute force content.

Bye. You will not be missed. If you want poe1 go play it.

You seem to be completely oblivious to the actual concerns people are raising. No one is talking about infinite respawns to brute force, that's just your simplistic ignorant interpretation because apparently you can't comprehend the issues that are being discussed.

Once you figure out what we're actually talking about, come back and join the discussion at hand

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CovidPatientZero#0332 wrote:

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hboi#6131 wrote:

The game is not going to die because you and your friends are scrubs and are going to quit the game because you dont get infinite respawns so you can brute force content.

Bye. You will not be missed. If you want poe1 go play it.

You seem to be completely oblivious to the actual concerns people are raising. No one is talking about infinite respawns to brute force, that's just your simplistic ignorant interpretation because apparently you can't comprehend the issues that are being discussed.

Once you figure out what we're actually talking about, come back and join the discussion at hand

If you cannot defeat a single map in 6 attempts then it might as well be infinite.

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hboi#6131 wrote:

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CovidPatientZero#0332 wrote:

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hboi#6131 wrote:

The game is not going to die because you and your friends are scrubs and are going to quit the game because you dont get infinite respawns so you can brute force content.

Bye. You will not be missed. If you want poe1 go play it.

You seem to be completely oblivious to the actual concerns people are raising. No one is talking about infinite respawns to brute force, that's just your simplistic ignorant interpretation because apparently you can't comprehend the issues that are being discussed.

Once you figure out what we're actually talking about, come back and join the discussion at hand

If you cannot defeat a single map in 6 attempts then it might as well be infinite.

Did you bother reading the thread? The issue isn't the 6 portals in white maps. Read the thread and understand why 1 portal on juiced maps is a problem, then come back and give some input

bah if they release one portal with no way of porting back to dispose loot/trade it would be so stupid that i doubt they dare do it they must be working on some fix. But i had no issue with the actual portal system tbh so if, sadly, they had to catter to those complains (ppl rly are getting frustrated fast nowadays bunch of cry babies imo.) they better do it good at least.

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hboi#6131 wrote:

The game is not going to die because you and your friends are scrubs and are going to quit the game because you dont get infinite respawns so you can brute force content.

Bye. You will not be missed. If you want poe1 go play it.

This whole "POE2 needs to stay challenging" sentiment doesn't make any sense to me. There is almost nothing skill based about games like this. You grind and get better gear to overcome content. There is barely any skill involved in running maps. Who cares if they add the six portal mapping back in? Why are they wasting dev time on some convoluted solution when they can just keep six portals like poe1? I've been playing poe for nearly 10 years now and don't remember anyone ever complaining about having six portals

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Dmo90#6022 wrote:

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hboi#6131 wrote:

The game is not going to die because you and your friends are scrubs and are going to quit the game because you dont get infinite respawns so you can brute force content.

Bye. You will not be missed. If you want poe1 go play it.

This whole "POE2 needs to stay challenging" sentiment doesn't make any sense to me. There is almost nothing skill based about games like this. You grind and get better gear to overcome content. There is barely any skill involved in running maps. Who cares if they add the six portal mapping back in? Why are they wasting dev time on some convoluted solution when they can just keep six portals like poe1? I've been playing poe for nearly 10 years now and don't remember anyone ever complaining about having six portals

+1 Exactly! The six portals was fine, no one was complaing about it or felt it bad, the question is why GGG feels the need to brake working things and push awfull mechanics?

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Fhrek#4437 wrote:

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Dmo90#6022 wrote:

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hboi#6131 wrote:

The game is not going to die because you and your friends are scrubs and are going to quit the game because you dont get infinite respawns so you can brute force content.

Bye. You will not be missed. If you want poe1 go play it.

This whole "POE2 needs to stay challenging" sentiment doesn't make any sense to me. There is almost nothing skill based about games like this. You grind and get better gear to overcome content. There is barely any skill involved in running maps. Who cares if they add the six portal mapping back in? Why are they wasting dev time on some convoluted solution when they can just keep six portals like poe1? I've been playing poe for nearly 10 years now and don't remember anyone ever complaining about having six portals

+1 Exactly! The six portals was fine, no one was complaing about it or felt it bad, the question is why GGG feels the need to brake working things and push awfull mechanics?

Right like this isn't Dark Souls(My favorite game series of all time) You can't beat the entire game on a level 1 character cause you "Got Gud"