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I've been playing PoE for years, and I have thousands of hours in the game.
Today I played PoE2 for ~5 hours and rage quit.
I failed to kill the act1 boss 10 times, i have 22 deaths, and honestly........ it's NOT FUN.
The reason why I love PoE is that i DO NOT HAVE TO BE ZIZARAN to enjoy it.
Let's be honest, i've played for thousands of hours and I'm NOT good at it.
Do you know how many times I've killed Maven without being hit by the memory game? 0. I've never been able to dodge it with all the beams. It's a matter of skill. But you know? it never mattered because i had my freaking 6 portals. And by getting a lot more gear than what the GOOD players need, I can finally do it. In softcore of course.
And in the campaign, I can try to kill brutus multiple times. On a brand new character I was never able to pass the second map without being killed by Roas at least once since the rework of act 1. I just can't. I try. I'm NOT GOOD. It didn't matter, because i could progress anyways!
The "dodge or die" mechanic is boring to me. I do NOT play souls games because they are boring. There are other people that DO like that. It's totally fine, but it's not the gaming i like. PoE2 feels a LOT more like "souls" than PoE1 IMHO.
That's why I rage-quit. Because i'm tired of one-shots and having to re-do the whole thing again. Because of losing progression. I'm barely in act 2 and i'm already tired of this.
I understand your decisions, but they are not fun for me. I don't even want to make another character right now to see if it changes anything. Because I won't be able to dodge the mechanics; and therefore I won't be able to play it.
It's a shame :( I was beyond excited.
I have suggestions, but I don't think they matter, because you went in a completely different direction than I'd like.
Well said mate , its like why they went this approach? Soulslike games already a targeted demografy , and arph should be fun and engaging with occasional deaths ye , but not wiping on a boss hundred of times.
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Posted bybadlof2k#0262on Dec 8, 2024, 10:37:58 AM
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I really want to like this game but it's more like dark souls and not like Poe.
I don't mind that it's hard, but it's terribly unrewarding.
And i'm sad to see it taken by 'git gud' crowd.
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Posted byHansonAlister#2692on Dec 8, 2024, 10:39:25 AM
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I am very surprised by the negative reviews, what are you guys smoking?
I am a D2 fanatic, even used to make builds on gamefaqs back in the day and I am in LOVE with POE2, I seriously hope they are not listening to all the shitty reviews of people that come from POE1. I suggest you guys go back to 1 if you don't enjoy 2. Anyway, the game is far from perfect, but difficulty is NOT the main issue here. I agree they need to increase rewards and responsiveness for spells/roll etc. among other things. Having a blast so I'm going back to playing the game, literally can't wait.
Just as you have the right to voice your oopinion everyone else also , im happy its for you , and if they will go with this kind of "vision" , sure , but on the live showcase they did before EA release , was suggested they aiming for new and veteran players , so by that sense ,in this state of the game is not for long time players at all ,its clearl for DS and Elder funs and such players , and not their majority of players, so we will see how far people will playing this "game" and those who payed for EA also..
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Posted bybadlof2k#0262on Dec 8, 2024, 10:41:51 AM
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The minions revive insanely quickly and do bonkers damage.
Perfect illustration for my post above. Please teach us your ways, or the great one.
Their default spawn timeout is 8 seconds. They are lvl 4 for me, right now.
There is a single node in witch proximity that has revive speed. It takes 6 points to get to it. And then there is another cluster that takes another 8. 14 points, mostly travel ones, to get there quikcer, to get a whooping 40% revive speed.
I haven't seen 1 piece of gear with revive speed on it. It is not affected by their level.
"Insanely quickly" indeed.
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Posted bydnut_00#1237on Dec 8, 2024, 10:48:27 AM
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The minions revive insanely quickly and do bonkers damage.
Perfect illustration for my post above. Please teach us your ways, or the great one.
Their default spawn timeout is 8 seconds. They are lvl 4 for me, right now.
There is a single node in witch proximity that has revive speed. It takes 6 points to get to it. And then there is another cluster that takes another 8. 14 points, mostly travel ones, to get there quikcer, to get a whooping 40% revive speed.
I haven't seen 1 piece of gear with revive speed on it. It is not affected by their level.
"Insanely quickly" indeed.
All I had was one passive for like 15% revive speed.
They were reviving in like 5 or 6 seconds. Either way, the amount of damage they do would be ridiculous even if the respawn timer was 12 seconds. Just kite around for like 1-2 boss ability rotations... and that's only if you truly don't want to cast a single ability yourself. For god's sakes, is it gonna ruin your class fantasy so badly to cast a single contagion or chaos bolt every few seconds???
Edit: Also, you reference your post above. Zizaran was planning on continuing in softcore once he died in hardcore before the game even launched. Go watch his videos talking about his plans. Also someone in another thread mentioning Ben having difficulty with the game. They are not godlike, the game is completely new, they are gamers like the rest of us, they just have a lot of time and expertise in PoE1. We are on a relatively level playing field now, of course they are going to be feeling the changes just like the rest of the PoE1 veterans.
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Posted byGogolo30#6034on Dec 8, 2024, 10:50:30 AM
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The minions revive insanely quickly and do bonkers damage.
Perfect illustration for my post above. Please teach us your ways, or the great one.
Their default spawn timeout is 8 seconds. They are lvl 4 for me, right now.
There is a single node in witch proximity that has revive speed. It takes 6 points to get to it. And then there is another cluster that takes another 8. 14 points, mostly travel ones, to get there quikcer, to get a whooping 40% revive speed.
I haven't seen 1 piece of gear with revive speed on it. It is not affected by their level.
"Insanely quickly" indeed.
All I had was one passive for like 15% revive speed.
They were reviving in like 5 or 6 seconds. Either way, the amount of damage they do would be ridiculous even if the respawn timer was 12 seconds. Just kite around for like 1-2 boss ability rotations... and that's only if you truly don't want to cast a single ability yourself. For god's sakes, is it gonna ruin your class fantasy so badly to cast a single contagion or chaos bolt every few seconds???
Dude, but that's the point. You play minions build, not a kite build. And no, they do not do the damage you describe, unless you have twink gear I do not.
And yeah... I ended doing ED/Cont build with minions on the side.
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Posted bydnut_00#1237on Dec 8, 2024, 10:52:31 AM
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Perfect illustration for my post above. Please teach us your ways, or the great one.
Their default spawn timeout is 8 seconds. They are lvl 4 for me, right now.
There is a single node in witch proximity that has revive speed. It takes 6 points to get to it. And then there is another cluster that takes another 8. 14 points, mostly travel ones, to get there quikcer, to get a whooping 40% revive speed.
I haven't seen 1 piece of gear with revive speed on it. It is not affected by their level.
"Insanely quickly" indeed.
All I had was one passive for like 15% revive speed.
They were reviving in like 5 or 6 seconds. Either way, the amount of damage they do would be ridiculous even if the respawn timer was 12 seconds. Just kite around for like 1-2 boss ability rotations... and that's only if you truly don't want to cast a single ability yourself. For god's sakes, is it gonna ruin your class fantasy so badly to cast a single contagion or chaos bolt every few seconds???
Dude, but that's the point. You play minions build, not a kite build. And no, they do not do the damage you describe, unless you have twink gear I do not.
And yeah... I ended doing ED/Cont build with minions on the side.
Yep. Totally don't understand why people want to sit back and let the minions play the game for them without touching their keyboard other than to move around. Using the active ability from the Snipers and the frost mages is incredibly important.
Corrosion on the poison to break armour as most of your regular minions are doing mostly phys, and the freeze buildup from the frost bomb are both huge.
Edit: Also no clue how we can pretend that contagion is not totally a minion build too. They spell the interaction out for you as plain as day. You contagion, then your little Unearth scorpions are suddenly doing bonkers damage through spreading contagion. You can use chaos bolt to wither, it's not even a damaging ability for me. It does like 8 damage or something, it's useless, I just use it for contagion for my cute little scorpion fiends.
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Posted byGogolo30#6034on Dec 8, 2024, 10:54:05 AM
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I took this 15% node too, and it just shaved off about 0.5 seconds, the timer still started at 7.something ish seconds, which is far from effective.
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Posted byBndrIPL#2994on Dec 8, 2024, 10:55:22 AM
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See? This is sorta helpful. But can you see that people who didn't find the right gear or gems, or just made a bad decision would be struggling?
Do you see how GGG claimed to promote exploration and how we all get a shitload of currency (Jonathan literally droned about it on stream) and ... we do not.
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Posted bydnut_00#1237on Dec 8, 2024, 10:56:59 AM
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very tough...i like it...surely can be nerfed a tiny bit...but....yes its a fight ...ranger start is a pain in the butt...but come on its EA
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Posted byWilmots#7633on Dec 8, 2024, 10:57:59 AM
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