The promise of a shared endgame fooled collectors and standard players

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jsuslak313 wrote:

dude....I delete all my old characters. I deleted every single standard character I had once they switched divines and exalts. Since then, I delete every league once it ends. I have over 10000 hours of PoE, and that's just the hours that GGG was able to tell me when I asked a few weeks ago.

I'm not even going to start with you because you say the same thing in every thread and your entire take is totally insane: but I will say that, no, I have played none of the games you mentioned because they are not arpgs nor have they looked even remotely appealing to me.

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albert2006xp wrote:

Sure, you delete level 100 characters and kept the 90-95s. You clearly have no attachment to this game yet are fine to shit on people who do. Who keep their totems, their level 100 characters.

So you only play one type of game? This is so frustrating, to have my game time investment ruined because of people that aren't gaming as much as me.

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jsuslak313 wrote:

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albert2006xp wrote:

Sure, you delete level 100 characters and kept the 90-95s. You clearly have no attachment to this game yet are fine to shit on people who do. Who keep their totems, their level 100 characters.

So you only play one type of game? This is so frustrating, to have my game time investment ruined because of people that aren't gaming as much as me.

Yes I delete them....because I remake them when I want to. Why should I care about some old level 100 character when I've made hundreds more after that? Also, I would have had to pay hundreds of dollars increasing my character stash if I saved every single character I have ever made in this game. That's just beyond bonkers insane. You sound like a whiny petulant child, in this thread and every other thread where you try to make the same argument and get zero support. Keep living in that fantasy world. I'm done engaging, I've said my piece.

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albert2006xp wrote:

You're not even close to the cap... If you were I'd understand. And yeah I'd rather pay than lose level 100 characters.

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jsuslak313 wrote:

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albert2006xp wrote:

You're not even close to the cap... If you were I'd understand. And yeah I'd rather pay than lose level 100 characters.

Last comment...you realize the characters you see are ALL crucible characters? And it isn't even all my crucible characters that I created. And I would say this is the league I played the LEAST (except Kalandra). I have made hundreds, possibly thousands of different builds over the last 10 years, most of which were at least in the low 90s when I gave up on them and moved on. Are you truly in full control of your mental faculties?

Or perhaps maybe this game and your "totems" are some sort of lifetime achievement for you that you can't possibly live without. If that's true...I feel a bit sorry for you. Sure, its a time investment (I use investment loosely, because its fun, not work) but ultimately its just a goddamn game. You have this really weird, OCD obsession with specific games that is truly unhealthy.

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jsuslak313 wrote:

perhaps this is just me as a non-mtx PoE player....

I have literally never played a single game in my life that I didn't expect to either cease getting updated, or be released as a sequel or new game. Literally not a single game. There is always the expectation that I will move on to something newer and shinier and basically completely forget about the old game. Logging in just to look at my "collection" is so far-fetched to me. A game is meant to be played, not merely looked at.

I get that the original message was that PoE 2 was going to have a shared endgame with PoE 1, I do understand that...but at the same time this obsession with collections and foils and mtx etc., and how these can no longer be transferred to PoE 2 sort of baffles me.

I would much rather have a totally new, exciting game to play from scratch than a never-ending continuous remake of PoE 1, with all the limitations and problems that comes from years and years of issues and a decade+ old base system. Even though I have played PoE since the beta. There's a risk the new game might have problems (*cough D4 *cough), but the excitement of exploring a new game, and the next 10 years of development has me really really excited. To hell with all the items I had stored up over the last decade, I don't give a damn about that. I had fun playing the game all this time through its ups and downs. I had items from 2013 in my standard stash. So what? I also had every set and every unique and all the best perfect runewords in my D2 account from the early 2000s. Did I expect them to be around forever and usable in any future installment of the series? Not at all. I have no interest in starting a brand new game in instant god mode.

It is far more normal, reasonable, and predictable that there would come a time when PoE 1 would end, and PoE 2 would begin. And frankly, even if they had a shared endgame, there was never a guarantee (nor should there have even been an expectation) that all previous items would be usable, or even accessible. Plenty of items through the years have been erased or modified out of existence. I would argue it is BETTER for your collection that the games are separate because there is now no reason for GGG to go in and make mandatory changes to your years-long museum of old items, destroying many of them in the process.

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Designing Path of Exile to Be Played Forever. Chris Wilson at GDC 2019

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albert2006xp wrote:

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jsuslak313 wrote:

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albert2006xp wrote:

You're not even close to the cap... If you were I'd understand. And yeah I'd rather pay than lose level 100 characters.

Last comment...you realize the characters you see are ALL crucible characters? And it isn't even all my crucible characters that I created. And I would say this is the league I played the LEAST (except Kalandra). I have made hundreds, possibly thousands of different builds over the last 10 years, most of which were at least in the low 90s when I gave up on them and moved on. Are you truly in full control of your mental faculties?

Or perhaps maybe this game and your "totems" are some sort of lifetime achievement for you that you can't possibly live without. If that's true...I feel a bit sorry for you. Sure, its a time investment (I use investment loosely, because its fun, not work) but ultimately its just a goddamn game. You have this really weird, OCD obsession with specific games that is truly unhealthy.

My totems are more worth than everything you've ever done in this game and they aren't even at the difficulty I'd like them to be. That's why I have leaguely posts to make level 100 harder, to make 40/40 harder, etc. To increase value over people like you that just play to play. I play to show you I am better than you. Leaderboards for fastest 40/40, solo only when? Let's go. Let's show who the better gamer is and who's word is worth more? Spoiler: I will beat you in every game ever invented.