The promise of a shared endgame fooled collectors and standard players

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Chickenwink wrote:

Im seeing a contradictory statement in here. POE2 isn't zoom zoom from what we have seen. So..... ??? They are making the game you want.


I get what you are saying, However i am not really in favor of either side though i must admit i have many posts asking GGG to reign in the speed meta but only primarily because of consequences like we are dealing with right now. :/

Had some of those things been listened to we'd probably have that unified endgame to look forward to right now and a player base absolutely RADIOACTIVE with faith and hype.

It's not too late.
Innocence forgives you
Last edited by SilentSymphony#3358 on Aug 7, 2023, 4:47:46 PM
When a company makes a statement it is not considered a promise unless in the announcement it is stated. "We promise and cross our hearts and hope to die if we don't follow though on it!" *



*That is a silly joke meaning to show sarcasm that just because the word "promise" isn't used, it is unreasonable to call such a statement a promise.

Promise: (intransitive) To give grounds for expectation, especially of something good.
The clouds promise rain.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/promise
Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
Last edited by Turtledove#4014 on Aug 7, 2023, 11:43:15 PM
this is a breach of trust, in my opinion.
rip poe.
I told my daughter I'd pick her up from school.

I didn't pick her up.

She said I promised I would pick her up.

I said I didn't say I promise.


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I'm playing Black Desert Online at the moment. They have massively reduced the p2w aspect and I think it's now pretty much on par with PoE. Give it a try.
“Human decency is not derived from religion. It precedes it.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Last edited by Antigegner#0560 on Aug 8, 2023, 6:58:46 PM
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Antigegner wrote:
I told my daughter I'd pick her up from school.

I didn't pick her up.

She said I promised I would pick her up.

I said I didn't say I promise.



To be fair with this example....your response is totally correct, you never promised her. All this proves is that you were a jerk, but NOT that you broke a promise. Your daughter is wrong: you didn't promise to pick her up.
Last edited by jsuslak313#7615 on Aug 8, 2023, 7:01:25 PM
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jsuslak313 wrote:
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Antigegner wrote:
I told my daughter I'd pick her up from school.

I didn't pick her up.

She said I promised I would pick her up.

I said I didn't say I promise.



To be fair with this example....your response is totally correct, you never promised her. All this proves is that you were a jerk, but NOT that you broke a promise. Your daughter is wrong: you didn't promise to pick her up.



exactly

I don't like jerks but everyone is free to choose :D
“Human decency is not derived from religion. It precedes it.”
― Christopher Hitchens
My QoL List: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3279646
Last edited by Antigegner#0560 on Aug 8, 2023, 7:03:08 PM
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Antigegner wrote:
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jsuslak313 wrote:
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Antigegner wrote:
I told my daughter I'd pick her up from school.

I didn't pick her up.

She said I promised I would pick her up.

I said I didn't say I promise.



To be fair with this example....your response is totally correct, you never promised her. All this proves is that you were a jerk, but NOT that you broke a promise. Your daughter is wrong: you didn't promise to pick her up.



exactly

I don't like jerks but everyone is free to choose :D


A much better response would be something like, "I'm very sorry dear. The car broke down and I got here as soon as I could." (Or whatever the explanation was for why she wasn't picked up on time.)
Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
I stopped reading on page 3, can someone quote me and let me know if this garbage fire turned into anything?
Eat your vegetables.
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Jix_91 wrote:
Title. Path of Exile II will be a separate game. We were promised the following:

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"We are creating Path of Exile II as a new campaign alongside Path of Exile I with a shared endgame. The original campaign is still fully playable and because it is the same game it will still continue to be maintained with all the updates and game system improvements that were made to Path of Exile"

(Quote from Exilecon 2019)

1) no shared endgame
2) we won't get all the updates
3) it is not the same game

I fully understand the decision and I am sure it is correct for all the players that play the current league and then quit. There are players though that have long term goals within the game and that enjoy to build their characters and collection over multiple leagues. For these players Path of Exile II being separated is a slap in the face.

After the 2019 Announcement that Path of Exile II would be a part of the base game the continued monetary support of all players was used to develop a game that was no longer part of the base game. Essentially breaking trust with the whole standard playerbase. It would be really interesting to see, which share the standard playerbase and their monetary support has on the development?
I for one would not have bought a single supporter pack after this was made transparent in the meantime.

As a supporter and customer I feel fooled.


Edit: someone send me this clip

Octavian:

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At what point in the development of POE 2 did you realize the game was too different and needed to be different from POE 1?

Jonathan:

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So to me it was right after the Act 2 reveal - soon after that.


The Path of Exile II Act 2 reveal was posted on 08.04.2021.
They knew since over 2 years - not a single word.



You are 100 right, however:
PoE 2 is not a PoE it's difrent game for a different player base. The big mistake is that GGG called this new game PoE2. New game should be called something else, "The Ruthless story of Wraeclast" for example or just "The Ruthless". It's kind of OK to use the same lore, but different name is a must to not confuse players.

Or if GGG already sold brand name to Koreans, rename PoE1 to something else.
Last edited by Emperor_home#1331 on Aug 12, 2023, 4:14:06 AM
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Emperor_home wrote:


You are 100 right, however:
PoE 2 is not a PoE it's difrent game for a different player base. The big mistake is that GGG called this new game PoE2. New game should be called something else, "The Ruthless story of Wraeclast" for example or just "The Ruthless". It's kind of OK to use the same lore, but different name is a must to not confuse players.

Or if GGG already sold brand name to Koreans, rename PoE1 to something else.


it really doesnt matter what GGG intends to rename POE2 to.

personally i wwould have held off buying more mtx or at least reduced it. and played less poe had i known POE 2 was a separate game.

one may argue GGG did not lie. but they did indeed deceive us by with holding information.
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