32:9 ultra wide support gone!

5120*1440 on Oddysey G9 néo and same of all.

I hate this fuc.... changement !!

I never play to Diablo 2 resurected becose blizzard do the same after the first alpha...

GIVE US BACK NOW !!

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tackle70 wrote:

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Sorradude wrote:

I never had a problem with 5120x1440, I never saw any effects or entities vanish.

This. Path of Exile's ultra-widescreen support was flawless before this patch.

So, they are making up nonsense, or (more likely) they intentionally broke something behind the scenes to brick ultrawide support.

stop the hyperbole, please.

the game wasn't ok, in ultrawide you could see content outside the activation radius, clicking outside the (invisible) activation radius horizontally wouldn't even make your char move there. and the game wouldn't register hitting enemies there either.

there were bugs where you could open the stash and trader window side by side which abused ultra wide screen settings.

ggg has to adapt the activation radius tech to be fair to people who can't see this content and those that can.

give them some time, they will fix it soon i guess, there are too many wide screen users (i'm one of them too)

I stand with most of the comments in this thread but I don't want to just complain about lack of communication, or how it used to work, or anything like that. I want to bring up a different "aspect" of this problem. (heh, ratio puns)

Please GGG, I want you to consider the following, as it's not merely about the change preventing filling the entire screen or about black bars for some of us...

For me, it had actually nothing to do with that.

It actually had to do with the fact that when I fullscreen the game things look "too big" and "too tilted."

The game has a different perspective ratio when it's scaled small and wide like was possible before, or at the very least, it appears to. The big benefit of this for me is the reduction of motion sickness.

With the default fullscreen I get motion sickness for some reason.
With the old scaling, I did not.

Please revert this change, it's universally regarded as a terrible change, no one asked to have it changed, and the issues it's causing far outweigh any benefits it provides.

Also if it's about fairness and balance to those who cannot do this, then just disable the ability to custom scale for prize-leagues only.

But to be honest, this is the sort of thing that has very little to do with any "vision" the company has and 100,000% to do with the players who endure this as it's a big deal to how some of us perceive the game.

I think it would be most fair to offer a vote/poll to the community as to whether to keep the change or revert it. (I also think this would be very telling of exactly how massive of an issue this is. Please consider these things.)

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cabledragon wrote:

For what it's worth, I do like the league and the changes and direction things have been heading in!

Unfortunately, to echo those in this thread, this will be my last league if this change is not reverted.

I don't like threats or acting like the supporter packs I bought give me some special say in how things go or that the threat of me not buying more is a weapon I would use against you.

I bought those packs because you make a good project and I respect what you're doing here. Not to give me some bargaining chip over you keeping things the way I'd like them to be. I value and respect you as a company and I really hope you'd do the same for me as a player, person, and fan.

It's important to understand that I'm writing this not because I'm angry or upset with you, but rather because a change you've made is actively harming me. Both in terms of gameplay experience but also in terms of health issues.

So I would like to communicate that to you in an open and succinct way and bring this topic to the table for discussion in a healthy way. I'd hope you'd do the same if something I did as a player was harming you.

Coming up in next patch: Mouse settings will be locked at 800dpi because people can't afford more sensitive mice so any faster mouse movement speeds are unintended and considered cheating.

For 3.21 GGG is preparing a console-level graphics lock as PC player's graphics are too advanced and console players call that false advertising when they see PC screenshots

For 3.22 and 3.23 they are looking at removing 3D sound cues and forcing high-contrast accessibility options to all players with a possible delve into making hotkeys be unchangeable.

Meanwhile, all whiteboards and monitors at GGG office will have vertical green bars added in and workers will be forced to only use the touchpad instead of the mouse so Staff and Devs can have the PoE experience first hand.

Concept art:

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vio wrote:

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tackle70 wrote:

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Sorradude wrote:

I never had a problem with 5120x1440, I never saw any effects or entities vanish.

This. Path of Exile's ultra-widescreen support was flawless before this patch.

So, they are making up nonsense, or (more likely) they intentionally broke something behind the scenes to brick ultrawide support.

stop the hyperbole, please.

the game wasn't ok, in ultrawide you could see content outside the activation radius, clicking outside the (invisible) activation radius horizontally wouldn't even make your char move there. and the game wouldn't register hitting enemies there either.

there were bugs where you could open the stash and trader window side by side which abused ultra wide screen settings.

ggg has to adapt the activation radius tech to be fair to people who can't see this content and those that can.

give them some time, they will fix it soon i guess, there are too many wide screen users (i'm one of them too)

The game was fine.
Any bugs involving opening things side by side are UI implementation issues and should have little to do with the implementation of resolution scaling. (I do not personally know the bug you're speaking of, but I do know UI/UX/Rendering programming and UI/resolution should each be separate and scalar based anyway.)

Even if there were issues (Though genuinely, I for once agree with the "mob mentality" that this is a copout to excuse their decision making.) they were not causing the level of concern that is now being raised over the current implementation. And even the level of concern aside, there were other possible solutions to each issue that scaling caused without removing the ability to scale.
It's the year 2022, we've had robust and elegant solutions to these sort of scaling/graphical problems for a long time.

If this is their go to solution for this sort of problem, then I fear I would have to concede that they're choosing to take the "easy/lazy" way out of this paper bag. The more correct solution would be handling each of the issues as separate problems and employing solutions that are best suited to solve each issue with respect to itself.

Removing a non-essential feature that is causing a number of issues without introducing more issues is called an elegant solution.

Removing a non-essential but used/appreciated feature that is causing a number of issues, the removal of which causes more issues and doesn't even properly resolve each of the initial issues to their entirety is just bad problem solving from the outset.

Bad decision in my opinion. The game looks awful like this. I haven't played for a while, so i'm not sure, but something else seems different to me. I can't tell if its the angle, or if the picture is zoomed in, additionally to the black bars, but the picture does not look natrually. Maybe my memory ist just bad, but i hadn't the feeling last time.

Hope they change this back asap, because i liked the game so much. They had this for years, so why not adressing the issues with this, than just canceling wide screen support. Ultra wide worked fine for me in the past.

This feels extra bad because even at that resolution we are still getting sniped.

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vio wrote:

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tackle70 wrote:

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Sorradude wrote:

I never had a problem with 5120x1440, I never saw any effects or entities vanish.

This. Path of Exile's ultra-widescreen support was flawless before this patch.

So, they are making up nonsense, or (more likely) they intentionally broke something behind the scenes to brick ultrawide support.

stop the hyperbole, please.

the game wasn't ok

Stop the white knighting, please.

The game was absolutely 100% fine at 32:9 before. Played hundreds of hours the past year at that aspect ratio and never encountered a single issue that made me think "oh, they need to fix PoE for ultrawides".

They bricked a feature that was working perfectly for absolutely zero legitimate reasons this patch.

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vio wrote:

the game wasn't ok, in ultrawide you could see content outside the activation radius, clicking outside the (invisible) activation radius horizontally wouldn't even make your char move there. and the game wouldn't register hitting enemies there either.

Except this isn't a bug, it's a design choice. They limited the area in which your mouse works exactly so that ultrawide resolutions did not confer an advantage in being able to click farther away. It's a radius around your character. There are many posts in which GGG has stated that over the years, for example: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2472306

Likewise, enemies not being hit in those areas is the serialization issue that was the stated reason for this change, even though this has been known since Alpha and has been seen as one of those things that you just live with when using unsupported resolutions. Here's a little known developer called Chris Wilson saying they knew this might happen in 2011: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1177#p22214

This change is senseless and completely out of left field when they have encouraged (and sometimes even touted) unsupported resolution projects and setups since before the game even launched. That 2011 thread I linked references a screenshot Jonathan posted in a resolution wider than 32:9 and discussions about plans for this exact implementation from 3.19, which were later abandoned because it wasn't that important. It seems quite silly to then 11 years later suddenly decide that this thing that everyone involved had known from the start and decided to allow now necessitates a sudden change to how the game works when so many people have come to depend on it.

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Cabledragon wrote:

The more correct solution would be handling each of the issues as separate problems and employing solutions that are best suited to solve each issue with respect to itself.

Removing a non-essential feature that is causing a number of issues without introducing more issues is called an elegant solution.

i agree, the solution isn't elegant and there must be more pressing issues than players being able to click outside the activation radius and chars dying because they're not moving.

i mean, 98% of all my char deaths are caused by my char not moving or skills not activating when i want it to do so.

regarding fairness, i don't know. the other solution to limit the horizontal view to 16:9 would be adding fog left and right. which players probably wouldn't like either