The Self Found League

IMHO, the core problem with a SFL is that many people want it to be solo, which is very counterproductive in a APRG (I love partying for endgame).

That said, I always feel like the most advanced players in terms of loot are the one that can master the laws of economics (and RNG, oh well), and I agree that relying on trading is farily boring. When I play a ARPG, I don't want to get a Masters in economics first in order to enjoy it fully.

Disabling trading in a League (every item is soulbound when picked up) and encouraging crafting a lot (i.e. a ton more currency drop) would be way more fun, I believe. This doesn't necesarily prevent partying, you've just got to have only permanent allocation allowed when grouping (a real one, not "the item becomes FFA when the player leaves the area" one).

So rather that a solo SFL, we should be aiming at a Found-for-self League.

Well it is self found league not solo league. It should't disable multiplayer just remove trading (all forms). Also shared stash is appropriate, I think.

Hi

1+ SFL mode

1)No trades.2)No Mf rolls on blue,yellow items.3)Increased orb drops NOT items.4)Permanent loot allocation thus allowing parties( no other benefits to parties,ex:better drops,etc..)5)New recipes that would allow the creation of actual crafting orbs.

SFL to me is about players questing together or solo, being able to get orbs that would allow actual crafting besides gambling, no trade spam or people asking for constant PC, NO FUCKING RMT or bots.

Been playing since CB,I barely trade because its such a hassle and to many overpriced greedy fucknuts out there. I have mentioned many a time that GGG take the fucking reins on their economy and set standards instead of letting outside third parties do it for them, thus in turn creating inflation in no matter what league I play, a couple days old and ambush already at standard prices and bots/RMT=FUCKING FAIL GGG.

cheers

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Aim_Deep wrote:

whats taking them so long to implement this? Option are good. Besides RMT negates much of the so-called successful players acheivements. I get spammed so much playing this game with crypto RMT websites in trade chat RMT must be very prevalent destroying GGGs whole model/ideal anyway. Whats the point of ladders at all with RMT so prevelent - save your money GGG and delete all optional leagues. SFL would take you closer to a merit based game.




I play self found. I also delete my HC toons on death way its supposed to be. But no one would care either way because we dont have self founded and real HC.

Bunch of crap in that first paragraph.... didn't GGG already respond to this? This is what happens when a very loud, and sometimes obnoxious, minority don't get their way. They cry louder and louder until people are sick of listening and give in....ie, America the last 5-10 years or so.

I am constantly on this game. I rarely see any of those RMT sites anymore. It sounds to me like you have done something to initiate it. Claiming RMT issues in this game is due to people feeling entitled. They wan't what everyone else has and without putting in the efforts to actually earn it. So obviously everyone who has better gear then I do, must have used real money to obtain it. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, just not as "prevalent" as you try to make it sound.

Your second paragraph is what is really going on with you guys. You don't feel appreciated in the game because other people either have better items than you, or they are just better at the game than you. But you are correct, no one cares now or ever will about whether or not you delete your HC characters after death or your accomplishments in a video game.

Learn to have fun and just play the game until you start your own gaming company and develop software with YOUR visions of how it should be played.

Yeah call it scavenger or something this sounds awesome.

I hadn't felt the need to buy so many leveling item since I started playing in the new leagues, that's so desperating :(

I can't get that SFL out of my mind.

LOVE the idea.

This is the reason i would actually pay for a offline/lan version that is completly disconnected from all the online leagues (aka one can't bring offline/sfl characters into other leagues)

I always prefered to play arpg's of any kind with myself or real life friends, i dont care about showing of loot (my precious!) or trading, if i play with other i prefer to play with people that just share and dont care about imaginary pixel money, for simple mindless fun.....

I am kinda saddened that i do not get that option (especially as once a day i can forgot to play online for a couple hours thanks to this "great" net i got here)

Nothing already playing like that, when my net actually cooperates and doesnt decide to randomly drop down to 5kb/s with 60%+ packet loss during the evening...... (my utmost personal reason why i desire this game in an offline mode)