The Self Found League

so you bumped a 6-months old thread just to say you are against it ?

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Amiag wrote:

so you bumped a 6-months old thread just to say you are against it ?

Had to. Has so many guys giving the like button. I was scared. Imagine if the GGG guys give their thumbs up... it would reduce the possibility of having a new hardcore league type instead of just giving a standard soft core one with Gerber on it.

hahahaha

It was a good idea:)
I think it's time to BUMP:)

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Montogba wrote:

this league is specifically catered to noobs that cannot get good gear via trading, so they want to dumb down the game so that everyone is just as weak as them. this concept would work perfectly fine and is such a great idea. it would take all the underclassed gamers out of the real leagues and put them in a league of their own where the game becomes pointless. if you want to be a SF player then feel free to do so and keep your trade chat closed.

I read through most of the comments in this thread and I wanted to quote and reply to this thread to make a few points in support for the OP...

I've played since BETA and have never taken part in the Trading aspect of the game. I play in both HC and SC leagues, some small amount of racing and etc. In my opinion a Self-Found League should at least be considered as a another stand-alone league.

Since it is self-contained it would have no influence on the other two leagues (HC and SC). Other than perhaps pull more players into this league and perhaps draw players back to the game between breaks. It's seems to be nothing more than an additional league with a different rule-set (main point being no trading).

It would probably be the only league that would be viable between events and content updates. Both the SC and HC leagues get stale until new racing / leagues / content is introduced.

For me, I find more challenge now, in the HC/SC leagues, using white/blue gear and attempting to progress this way. It's is much more difficult and rewarding than having to trade for build-enabling items and repeating builds.

It's disappointing to finally understand that character progression stops and you are forced into trading at some point to advance, in the two leagues we have now. I think it would be beneficial for GGG to look at this suggestion in earnest and spend time on a valid rule-set for this league.

Good idea for a PvP league, too, so people can't pay others to do their grinding for them, or trade cash or whatever for OP PvP items. You use what you find.

May be GGG don't want create new server because of high price of server and support.
Or may be GGG don’t want to have a lot of near empty servers.
I know good decision.

Add new character type for all servers.
You can create new character with flag Self Found on any server.
He has his individual stash.
He can’t trade.
He can’t pick up item if another player drops it.
Other players can pick up item if he drops it.

As result normal players can play together with SF players in one team.

Hi

Wasama, I think your have a good idea, but GGG stance on solo/self found play has been a constant elephant in the room. No matter how good the suggestion GGG has remained quiet.


With the advent of Leo the PVP master it has been noted that players must make a PVP ONLY character, I believe this is the first step to what you have suggested. GGG has the ability or the existing coding to use the PVP ONLY character model/framework to make perhaps other ONLY types of characters, IE: SELF FOUND CHARACTER ONLY. This would be a cheaper approach and would not create the supposed schism so many players have prophesied/suggested about but to me what Self found comes down to is, is getting back to a less greedy community. Most people in trade are just going through the hollow motions, the rigamarole of it all, ex: PC?, oh its worth that much OK I will sell it for that much...POE was not about this, the barter system was put in place to encourage players to haggle and get what they need; now its an abomination that deserves to have new options presented (ex:RMT, another elephant in the room, auction house) that are not favorable to the Dev view on how the economy of POE should be run but lets not forget that these dev are actually encouraging this by not increasing drop rates of orbs to de-stabilize the stupid megalithic trading system, its a dinosaur and it needs to die but hey perhaps the dev's want it to live?, but that shouldn't have to be forced upon us, hence the idea of SFL was born... and 100+ on this thread alone not counting the other couple SFL threads that equally exceeded 100+ pages resulting in a average of over 500+ pages written on the subject of a SFL.

Heres to one day perhaps being able to play in such a league:)

cheers

Bump for next league.