Raise Spectre Gem did NOT deserve your shortsightedness

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Toshis8 wrote:

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Vaildez wrote:

If they don't reconsider the gem nerf I may take a break from this league and maybe longer. I have been playing spectres since Betrayal and I just enjoy the playstyle. The gem nerf is just too much and pretty much makes it unplayable.

Well, look at the bright side, finally you can try playing a different build for first time in your life, instead of playing spectres every single league.

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Tho you might be shocked to see that many builds out there arent as powerful as summoners.

I have played other build and they were 10x more powerful than any summoner build i played... I just prefer the playstyle of minions. If they are going to eliminate the playstyle I like I just won't play this game anymore or give them my money.

yeah peeps need to remember that summoners were popular because they were easy to get in too nothing else.

they were NEVER the strongest.

they were never the best bossers
they were never the best mappers
they were never the best delvers

What they were .. were relatively safe , cheap to get off the ground and decently well rounded.

Another issue with these nerfs is that there is no grantee that they will survive even with reasonable defensive investment.

One can point out all of the defensive minion nodes on the tree. But one can also point just how many of those nodes are located in ... bad pathlanes.

Decay ward and necronomic aegis in particular has basically been 4 -5 dead travel nodes for non es builds since forever.

Similarly grave intentions is only decent if you want to path to shadow .. which has no other minion nodes... so its terrible

This isnt to mention that its the mana on spell casters problem all over again. It feels crap to have to spend 10 nodes as a tax so that your build feels good to use. This is a core reason why leechless self cast spell casters feel like dog shit to play.

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DarkJen wrote:

A level 72 zone is a white tier map.

So its white tier viable only.
And spectres being less lvl than instance took much more dmg due to negative treshold, as it seems from practisce, so the get easilly eliminated in higher than their lvl, instances.

This is so true and nobody talks about it sadly

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hidden_gobsek wrote:

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DarkJen wrote:

A level 72 zone is a white tier map.

So its white tier viable only.
And spectres being less lvl than instance took much more dmg due to negative treshold, as it seems from practisce, so the get easilly eliminated in higher than their lvl, instances.

This is so true and nobody talks about it sadly

Because it is hyperbole aka bollocks

You can take your lvl 21 spectre gems and replace them with lvl 18 versions and you wont see a difference.

Most endgame melee uniques are lvl 68.. there goes the validity of comparing levels on two different abstracts

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sidtherat wrote:

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hidden_gobsek wrote:

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DarkJen wrote:

A level 72 zone is a white tier map.

So its white tier viable only.
And spectres being less lvl than instance took much more dmg due to negative treshold, as it seems from practisce, so the get easilly eliminated in higher than their lvl, instances.

This is so true and nobody talks about it sadly

Because it is hyperbole aka bollocks

You can take your lvl 21 spectre gems and replace them with lvl 18 versions and you wont see a difference.

Most endgame melee uniques are lvl 68.. there goes the validity of comparing levels on two different abstracts

Uh say what? Sounds like someone with ZERO experience with Spectre gem level.

All this because GGG need sell MTX and make nerf for change meta for this

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Chavolatra wrote:

All this because GGG need sell MTX and make nerf for change meta for this

Yes, nerfing the most meta and overpowered skills and ascendancies is so wrong, how could GGG do this?

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sidtherat wrote:

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hidden_gobsek wrote:

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DarkJen wrote:

A level 72 zone is a white tier map.

So its white tier viable only.
And spectres being less lvl than instance took much more dmg due to negative treshold, as it seems from practisce, so the get easilly eliminated in higher than their lvl, instances.

This is so true and nobody talks about it sadly

Because it is hyperbole aka bollocks

You can take your lvl 21 spectre gems and replace them with lvl 18 versions and you wont see a difference.

Most endgame melee uniques are lvl 68.. there goes the validity of comparing levels on two different abstracts

Not a hyperbole. Not even close. Just try it in field and you will see.

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sidtherat wrote:

You can take your lvl 21 spectre gems and replace them with lvl 18 versions and you wont see a difference.

If you don't have any clue about a game system and what its impacts are, you should better stay silent about it.

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sidtherat wrote:

You can take your lvl 21 spectre gems and replace them with lvl 18 versions and you wont see a difference.

This is literally not correct