Raise Spectre Gem did NOT deserve your shortsightedness

Yup spectres are dead now. Ahahahahahhahaahaha ok. Good job GGG, do you even play the game anymore?
Does GGG even care about people with disabilities!? One of the main reasons I play minion builds is because it destroys my hands and wrists less... well they decided we don’t matter.
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Last edited by Vaildez#6753 on Jan 11, 2021, 10:43:32 PM
About the disabilities/wrist pain part:

I have no disability as such, but I deeply despise how for example flasks work in this game. Devs can try to introduce a piano meta as much as they like, and people like me still won't be playing piano builds.

In fact, last time I was really hard trying to find a way of autocasting my skeletons so that they didn't require casting again and again and again and again every few second.

In general, I feel like they have no clue whilst promoting 'a more active gameplay style' in a game where you grind your ass off and pick every single drop one by one.
Last edited by vmt80#6169 on Jan 11, 2021, 10:58:54 PM
This set of changes are extremely demotivating. I was so excited to explore the new league, but I cannot play other builds due to RSI.

This is so sad.
Level 72 specter instead of 76 mean that they will have 20% less damage and 20% less health than in 3.12 .

If your build had 10 millions DPS, it will have 8 millions instead.

So it is far to kill the specter build.
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Vaildez wrote:
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FieryCabbage wrote:
So many other ways to nerf spectres that wouldn't kill the class this way. I guess it was a smart idea not to buy any supporter packs until after changes were posted.

I won't be spending anymore on packs after this.


I was so damn close to buying the 480 supporter pack.. I was so pumped for this league and having that sweatshirt. These nerfs just killed all my excitement. I am a minion player and they basically removed me from the game.



Likewise, I too was very close to get that 480 supporter pack last night. With the Raise Spectre gem level nerf, No no no, HELL NO! NADA!
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Funkjoker wrote:
I don't know which of the [redacted] developers thought it wise to reduce the level the gem provides to spectres, but let me show you the shortsightedness it brings:

The spectre level affects:
- Damage
- Life
- Accuracy

Older spectres or spectres which don't have the endgame treatment (e.g. xxxx% life) are now not viable anymore. Example: Solar Guards, which were the chosen spectres before the minion revamp, are now completely nonviable for endgame, because they don't have enough life and/or damage because of the level loss.

SCION and GUARDIANS were also able to do 6-links spectres setups, however - unlike the necromancer - they don't have ascendancy nodes to provide +levels to minions. Which means the generic level downgrade hits them even harder, because now they need to additionally compensate for the level loss, which was already difficult before for them.

The unique playstyle the spectre gem grants is now restricted to a) best dps (and not ultra squishy) monsters or b) support only, albeit now support gems are probably needed for survivability.

INSTEAD of nerfing some of the cluster jewels ONLY and maybe some mob if it's somewhat broken you chose to penalize EVERY SINGLE BUILD WHO WANTS TO USE SPECTRES IN AT LEAST SOME CAPACITY. Now any in-between is barely possible as without major investment the spectres won't survive endgame.

Another thought: Level 20+ gems are generally meant for endgame. The new Raise Spectre gem provides level 72 monsters. The endgame has in general level 83 monsters. That's a [redacted] 11 level difference. Think about it!

Edit: You might consider supporting kayella in her reddit post: https://old.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/kvdynz/ggg_please_reconsider_monster_level_nerf_for/


Exactly. +1 - no supporter pack mister dev manifesto, game balance, adjustment ggg borthers
Last edited by DaveNotDave#2153 on Jan 12, 2021, 2:29:46 AM
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Seriously... This game is an escape for me. I am in my late 30's and a lot of builds completely murder my hands and wrists with carpal tunnel. I just wish they would be more considerate about stuff like this.



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This set of changes are extremely demotivating. I was so excited to explore the new league, but I cannot play other builds due to RSI.



if RSI is real, and not some rhetoric argument, then get treated and stop doing ANY issue-worsening activities that are not essential. gaming IS NOT essential.

if you are 30 and you have this problem, at 60 you will be reliant on painkillers to function. find a safe pastime


to others:



that and Minion Life Support is still in game, isnt it?

claiming 'minions ded', 'spectres ded' etc is pretty comical at this point. there is a reason spectres were popular and are going to be popular - they offered absurdly safe, cheap and strong build that scaled almost entirely of thin air (yet could be boosted by gear). some spectres were absurd. ive used.. flame carpets. yes, flame carpets, in 2020, and had ABSOLUTELY no problems in endgame, spectres NEVER died on me, EVER.

there are plenty of defensive stats for minions on jewels (regular, abyss and cluster) that are ignored because why would anyone use them?

it is a huge nerf. but it is a nerf from braindead, cheap, effective to 'now i have to actually plan my build, like other players'

the worst part is - corpse-based necromancers are untouched so we are back into necro DD/VD meta. but with this build you at least have a chance of dying from time to time
Last edited by sidtherat#1310 on Jan 12, 2021, 3:28:02 AM
Ritual

- Your spectres get automatically resummoned after 4 seconds if you have no active (Slave Driver) spectre anymore.

Obviously a pun to the Elementalist node. Would be hilarious if they add a similar mechanic somewhere on the tree.

Especially starter Spectres like Slave Drivers and spectres in general will now be unusable with classes that dont grant free minion levels like Necro. Necro can at least mitigate the nerf to some extent.

Lets see. At least there are the good old skeletons.
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Last edited by gandhar0#5532 on Jan 12, 2021, 4:29:31 AM

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