Raise Spectre Gem did NOT deserve your shortsightedness

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Funkjoker wrote:

As stated in this thread, the following happened:

- Tier 2 or lesser spectres are not taken anymore (one could have FUN, spelled F U N) with some spectres but it's now entirely not viable to take non-T1-spectres.

- Most people are playing golems now (52% golems vs. 21% spectres, source: ninja) which contributes to the fact that golems have far better QoL, quantity and damage.

- Spectres are now desperatly in need of gem levels (e.g. helmets) so that they are at least comparable to golems.

Conclusion:

You took the F U N out of the gem, you made them far less competitive, you achieved nothing in the meta apart from angrying spectres players.

Thanks for your outstanding contribution in this league for the Raise Spectre gem. Oh, and of course thanks to your Balance team, doing outstanding work.

Better than any words

Sad as it is to say but spectres are pretty much reliant on physical to elemental conversion to be competitive with carrion golem.

Crabs are somewhat competitive with carrions
redemption sentries are pretty much worthless.

really the only good spectre to use offensively are the syndicate operatives .. which means they will be killed off next league.

The patch notes will be watched closely. To not make spectres strictly inferior to other minion types I'll suggest the following:

a) Revert the changes from 3.13
b) return the gem mechanic to bind spectres' level to the raised corpse

b) was good because the gem worked fundamentally different than other minions. Now the gem does not work like others AND its QoL and overall power lacks behind.

CHANGE THIS!

Summoners and minions are absolutely broken, and have been for years.
The gameplay and easy of play is ridiculously easy compared to other playstyles.
Too rewarding for too low investment.

If it was up to me, NERF necromancers. NERF minions, NERF NERF NERF !!!!

You want to play Path of Exile, play something active and skilled that actually requires a brain. I cannot respect these kind of posts.

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kanzaki01 wrote:

Summoners and minions are absolutely broken, and have been for years.
The gameplay and easy of play is ridiculously easy compared to other playstyles.
Too rewarding for too low investment.

If it was up to me, NERF necromancers. NERF minions, NERF NERF NERF !!!!

You want to play Path of Exile, play something active and skilled that actually requires a brain. I cannot respect these kind of posts.

I don't know what summoners did to you, but - after seeing your characters and achievements so far - I can only conclude that your insufficient game knowledge leads you to be envious and envy leads to the dark side of the force, so L2P.

Summoners have been nerfed several times now and there are enough other builds strong enough to be competitive with summoners or stronger given the investment.

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kanzaki01 wrote:

Summoners and minions are absolutely broken, and have been for years.
The gameplay and easy of play is ridiculously easy compared to other playstyles.
Too rewarding for too low investment.

If it was up to me, NERF necromancers. NERF minions, NERF NERF NERF !!!!

You want to play Path of Exile, play something active and skilled that actually requires a brain. I cannot respect these kind of posts.

Kek, found the troll under the bridge.

As far as nerfs go, since the rework, 90% of summoner changes were nerfs, and with a few exceptions, like syndicate operatives played with spell echo to trigger multiple attacks, are rushed and idiotic changes.
Zombies too op in blight, so people stack str and afk on the pump?
NERF
Cluster jewels are a clustef**k
And every build is stacking nodes, and most importantly auras?
Nerf %minion dmg and base level
Harvest stand in place and nuke the pack encounter, ritual ditto, so how about we nerf everything necromancer related until the witch forums don't have a single necro build on first page?
Gggcent got a splinter in their eye with any kind of minions, because you don't have to farm a headhunter and play bv to walking simulator through the whole map, so instead of thinking about things and giving a rational nerf, they nuke the whole ascendancy from orbit.

Sad about the whole thing, since poe offered the most options for necromancers, but as long as they are actively screwing over the whole class, things will not change for the better.

The problem isn't the ascendancy, it is the seizure inducing oneshot ripfest gameplay that makes standing back while minions clear and tank eveything the appealing alternative over anything else. Strange though how literally no one gave a flying f about necromancers before the rework.
I don't know how the hell are people even playing any melee besides faceroll oneshot builds.