Raise Spectre Gem did NOT deserve your shortsightedness

as usual they destroyed play for the average gamer because of top tier players abusing things, but didn't fix the abuse that those top tier players will still be able to abuse.

As usual another incoherent post...

So for as long as the game existed these builds were mostly fine ( summoner & totem ). Now they nerf the crap out of these builds. So now we have to be decent about having things taken away...


Lol thats your logic? Dude...


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sidtherat wrote:

lol

'casuals need easier builds'

no, they dont. they need to get better. or accept that if they are casuals - they can stick to casual content and have casual goals

accept that. i have accepted that - i play standard, i do non meta builds, i know that i do not have 10+ hr/day to keep chaining Sirus 5-6times a day

if you are casual - there is nothing wrong with that. but have the decency to not expect being treated and rewarded like a pro. otherwise it is just begging for free stuff

Agreed... The changes have very little impact on the high end. GGG is punishing casuals and new players.

PURE LAZINESS. Linear fix VS a well thought out approach. Typical...

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Caulder10 wrote:

as usual they destroyed play for the average gamer because of top tier players abusing things, but didn't fix the abuse that those top tier players will still be able to abuse.

Not sure if you noticed... thread is about specs not CG's.

Folks that are pay to win or have access to cash will not have a problem. Top end.

At the low end a DPS and health nerf is big. Run some red maps with a level 72 spec and tabula... Let us know how well that works. Make sure you use one of the nerfed specs as well.

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Orbaal wrote:

Nah its fine.

Carrion Golems, a Tabula and maybe 2-3ex investment will be good enough to kill Shaper.
Please dont tell me 2-3ex cant be done be casuals - they absolutely can.
Heist still exists

It might take you a week or two to get those 2-3ex by whatever means and I doubt casuals make it to Shaper that fast anyways. So its fine on that front.

What casuals are lacking severly is knowledge, so they might have to wait 2-3 weeks for new guides. But once those are out, its smooth sailing from there.

casual running red maps?

if you are casual - stick to yellow maps and stay there for as long as you need to farm it up/get better at the game

dumbing down 'for casuals' never works. because nothing stops a good player from picking 'casual friendly' build (that is already easier to play than alternatives) and making it stronger than a regular build


pick one:
- you are casual, doing casual stuff, expecting casual rewards
- you are seasoned player and can have higher aspirations and expectations

if neither of these two apply - you are begging for free handouts. so what is it?

youll dodge this question, thats fine. but stop with this push for 'give me free powah because i need it'. ofc you need it, work for it.

Might do that at some point next league just for fun.

I dont expect this to be an impactful nerf as long as you know how to deal with the situation at hand.

I do, because I played necros back when they used to be garbage tier - especially spectres were utter garbage back then.
You couldnt desecrate them in your hideout, they wouldnt persist on logout/crash and you had to to spectre them in toptier maps, if you wanted them to deal dmg.

That was challenging to deal with. These tiny nerfs wont be anywhere near that struggle we had to go through back in the days. So complaining about this is giving me a good chuckle and reminds me of how good we have it these days.

Another not so well thought out post...

Now your dictating player play styles... Nice to have such an intelligent post from someone who knows not at all what they are talking about.

These posts at least add a level of comedy...

Casual builds that can do red maps have ALWAYS been a main stay in this game. ALWAYS.

Dude... Really... learn the game.

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sidtherat wrote:

casual running red maps?

if you are casual - stick to yellow maps and stay there for as long as you need to farm it up/get better at the game

dumbing down 'for casuals' never works. because nothing stops a good player from picking 'casual friendly' build (that is already easier to play than alternatives) and making it stronger than a regular build


pick one:
- you are casual, doing casual stuff, expecting casual rewards
- you are seasoned player and can have higher aspirations and expectations

if neither of these two apply - you are begging for free handouts. so what is it?

youll dodge this question, thats fine. but stop with this push for 'give me free powah because i need it'. ofc you need it, work for it.

The part you and most others are missing is they raised the difficulty exponentially. You can see this from the trailers. Its getting much harder.

Game getting harder... specs much weaker... its a three way hit. less dps. less health. harder content.

GGG made sure only top tier players would get there. Pay to win or serious time investment to get gear. possibly a fourth hit on nerfed specs.

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Orbaal wrote:

Might do that at some point next league just for fun.

I dont expect this to be an impactful nerf as long as you know how to deal with the situation at hand.

I do, because I played necros back when they used to be garbage tier - especially spectres were utter garbage back then.
You couldnt desecrate them in your hideout, they wouldnt persist on logout/crash and you had to to spectre them in toptier maps, if you wanted them to deal dmg.

That was challenging to deal with. These tiny nerfs wont be anywhere near that struggle we had to go through back in the days. So complaining about this is giving me a good chuckle and reminds me of how good we have it these days.

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Nightstone13 wrote:

its not what they did its HOW they did it. Not going to effect the 1% ers. casual players just got screwed...

I think it is saying a lot how people at the forums were absolutely furious of some aura stacker builds being OP which cost over 500+ ex. I mean, I'm a permanoob and I'll never have a such build, but it was considered a top priority for these people.

Personally I believe it's gonna happen again: a streamer who knows the game inside out is going to make the broken monster AFKing the high-end content, because frankly, PoE is too bloated for devs to keep balanced enough for it to not happen. There are too many multipliers and too many items and too many loopholes, and all the pieces interact with each other. But for average joe it means top-end players will keep screaming nerf this or nerf that, while having no stabile environment for making builds long term. This is 'meta-shake' we sometimes call it.

For me it is demotivating of making any build. Why invest.

LMAO, 11 pages of whine.

Hollywood should do a movie just alone for this thread.

If youre unhappy with this game, switch the game or code your own game.
Its not like you guys are paying GGG.