IMPORTANT: Everyone playing on Windows 7 or 8.1 immediately stop and upgrade to Windows 10.

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Draegnarrr wrote:

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Phrazz wrote:

My post was solely directed towards the "idea" that someone has to be "personally selected" because of "importance" to get hacked, which is far from the reality these days.

It was never the reality for the regular users, you get specific targets ie businesses and you get general targets which is just w/e is available. Routers did more for the 2nd than every security update microsoft has done and tbh teaching people how to browse safely would do more for OS security than anything else.

I apologize if you were talking as far back as XP but if i'm guilty of putting words in your mouth you are probably guilty of the same with regards to the person you were quoting as I doubt they were defending XP here :p. I mean they might be, but if they are they were wrong. Windows 7 will get to that state but you've got several years at least until then as Microsoft are still "unofficially" supporting it.

It's 2020 and I still occasionally get idiots clicking on email attachments that they don't know what it is like "Here's your invoice for xyz purchase" when it's an obvious con to get you to open the attachment and infect your computer. Especially elderly people, in my tech work I still get comments such as "what is a browser?" or when I ask someone to double click they'll ask "is that with the left or the right mouse button?" or the worst is when I ask someone to go to their Start Menu and I here "where is that?". These happen weekly for me as a computer tech (I know, they shouldn't be allowed to operate a computer). There are lot's of Windows ignorant people in the world. Hell, people are still being duped by variations of the Nigerian Bank fraud con. Go figure why people are still dumb about these things in 2020.

So is Windows 10 more likely to be "hacked" than Windows 7 or 8? I doubt it. Am I at a greater risk? NO!, and as time passes with no more Win 7 security updates (unless you pay MS for this) Windows 7 will quickly be (if not already) more hackable than Win 10. But the hackers are going to target the largest quantity of computers they can, and that means Windows 10.

But the whole reason for my posting this is to inform all who are still running Windows 7 and complaining that "PoE sucks" in performance because it stutters badly as the client side processing gets too heavy (higher tier rare and up maps with large pack sizes) then they should upgrade to Windows 10. Of course "your mileage will vary" always applies so if you are running PoE on a super potato pc and Win 7 the upgrade to Win 10 may not get you as dramatic of a QoP improvement (or any) as I have experienced. But I certainly don't have a top cpu, a Xeon E5-2667 v2 cpu is an older generation from 2013, but at least with PoE (all my other games ran very well on Win 7) the upgrade to 10 has made playing PoE light years better. Even with the raw cpu speed hit I took going from a 3.7 GHz 4 core to a 3.3 GHz 8 core cpu, the fact that Windows 10 is load balancing PoE very well across my 8 cpu cores (can't tell if it's doubling up on any core with 16 threads available) more than makes up for the 400 MHz drop when all 8 cores are in use (I haven't gotten into the nitty gritty to see if the all core turbo of my Xeon works with PoE running to boost that to 3.4 GHz). Anyway I look at my upgrade I get a much higher QoP from PoE on Windows 10 and that was my goal so mission accomplished.

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LegendaryMewtwo wrote:

Lmao you're the definition of pure ignorance, try learning about cyber security.

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Phrazz wrote:

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Draegnarrr wrote:

again as i mentioned earlier i'm not saying upgrading to windows 10 isn't a good idea, keeping shit up to date is almost always a good plan but the idea that you are critically vulnerable on 7 right now is ridiculous.

Even though I didn't mention W7 with one word, I'll play.

I mentioned XP. And XP is - today - a vulnerable cesspool. Why? Because it's not critically supported anymore. It won't take long for W7 to reach that state once the support goes away.

My post was solely directed towards the "idea" that someone has to be "personally selected" because of "importance" to get hacked, which is far from the reality these days.

I'm definitely amused by some of the commentary.

I can tell you that my machine is more secure than my father's as well as my younger cousins. It's not a matter of OS as it is user knowledge.

Don't get me wrong, for all I know I could be inadvertently apart of someone's bot.net - it's not like I analyze my incoming and outgoing traffic with a fine-toothed comb - but I do have more working knowledge and experience than said cousins or said father.

This concept where OS is the deciding factor is silly. Well, at least it's not so simple. Makes me wonder how many of you have actually taken the time to read up on all those patches you install and what exploits they secure.

The big security issue that still worries me is the inherent flaw in USB, which mostly exists because of it's universal nature.

In reality, most of the stuff that creates problems for family members is directly related to the websites they visit, completely unaware of all the potential malicious scripts running in the background. Or, it's something they install, like some random application by who knows.

This thought that xp makes you vulnerable - just being connected to the internet makes you vulnerable, which is why the most secure systems are on a closed network with physical access restricted.

I remember when my cell phone got its first robo call - if there's a computer system you should be truly concerned about, it would be your phone.

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Nubatron wrote:

Might as well start discussing vaccinations....same ending.

NO!

Vaccinations should never be a discussion. Ever.

Oh... I just did it again, didn't I?

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Phrazz wrote:

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Nubatron wrote:

Might as well start discussing vaccinations....same ending.

NO!

Vaccinations should never be a discussion. Ever.

Oh... I just did it again, didn't I?

Take a look at the arguments for both sides and tell me that they are much different. Substitute Windows 10 for vaccines in this thread and take a look... :)

I was using some old pirated version of W7 for years. Guess what, I was never hacked! How is it even possible?! According to some people in here if you use W7 you will be hacked the next day because "its not supported anymore!!!oneoneone"

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Aynix wrote:

I was using some old pirated version of W7 for years. Guess what, I was never hacked! How is it even possible?! According to some people in here if you use W7 you will be hacked the next day because "its not supported anymore!!!oneoneone"

Actually, you could be hacked with a supported OS. Zero day vulnerabilities come up fairly regularly. It's just a ton more likely that you'll be hacked with an unsupported OS. It's all about the probability of being hacked.

If I were a betting man, you have been hacked. Your information just probably wasn't worth using; or at least not used in a manner that you would notice.

It's not like they leave behind a sign saying "Sorry, you've been hacked."

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Aynix wrote:

I was using some old pirated version of W7 for years. Guess what, I was never hacked! How is it even possible?! According to some people in here if you use W7 you will be hacked the next day because "its not supported anymore!!!oneoneone"

Anyone saying "Windows 7 is dead as of January 14th" and thus you will be hacked soon or "any day now" is just bs'ing or trolling here. My laptop still runs Win 7 and I need to clone it to a larger capacity SSD before upgrading to Win 10 but I'm in no hurry to do so out of fear that it will be hacked any day now. Same as in real life, I'm not altering my life just because some religious groups say "Armageddon will occur any day now".

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Arrowneous wrote:

Anyone saying "Windows 7 is dead as of January 14th" and thus you will be hacked soon or "any day now" is just bs'ing or trolling here.

They're not necessarily trolling; they're exaggerating.

Windows 7 is safe - for now. But it's not a big secret that every day that goes by without security updates, it gets more and more vulnerable each day. Hacks, viruses and scripts evolve every day. W7 does not. And if you knew how many people scream "I've never been hacked or had a virus in my life", while their system is loaded with garbage, I think you'd be surprised.

Anyhow, as you say, it's no rush. Yet.

So much stupidity in this thread, basically boomers who are not only too old but also incapable of adjusting.

I'm sure GGG has a CISO if not Tencent, should have him/her guest speak here and educate the idiots.

Moving on, I had commented that Thursday evening after the Win 10 upgrade I played patch 3.9.2c perfectly, then Friday morning the update patch 3.9.2d failed yet I was still able to play PoE with 3.9.2c no problems with mapping. Last night I figured it was a corrupted Content.ggpk file so I renamed it and let PoE download the entire file again. That worked ok but now when I go back to delete the old file I see this (stand alone client):

Content.ggpk       1/31/2020  20,698,064 KB
Content.ddpk.off   8/20/2013  27,850,215 KB

Over the years I ended up with a much larger GGPK file of more than 7 GB. That's pretty significant. Some of the bloat is probably all the game assets from challenge leagues that were unpopular and didn't go into the core but over 7 GB. Really GGG?

Didn't GGG release a utility to check and compact this file? Where is it found?