IMPORTANT: Everyone playing on Windows 7 or 8.1 immediately stop and upgrade to Windows 10.

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gibbousmoon wrote:

Even 7 does this lately, though not to the same horrible extent. But this fact alone demonstrates the dangers of giving any one for-profit corporation carte blanche regarding your OS's security. (A sentence which should give any rational and security-minded individual with even a modicum of knowledge regarding United States corporate law the willies.)

Linux is getting closer and closer to being the best gaming OS, in part no doubt due to Win10's various violations, priming the market for compatibility efforts. Valve has also been supporting this movement, for reasons which should be obvious to anyone familiar with their business model.

I don't think it is there quite yet, to be honest. But moving ever closer, every year.

Relevant:

https://www.protondb.com/

https://www.protondb.com/app/238960

I think this thread is more about not staying on Windows 7 rather than moving to Windows 10 for performance reasons. If there is an OS out there that is supported and can run POE, go for it. Last time I checked (which was years ago), POE on Linux required the use of Wine, which was not the best performance for the game. That may have changed; someone else should chime in on that.

The perspective of who gets your data needs to be how a corporation, a group of people (open source development) or a hacker will handle your data. Say what you want about MS, Google, FB, etc. but they are obligated to adhere to the laws of the various countries they operate in. If they violate those laws, they open themselves up to class action lawsuits that are not trivial. I actually don't know how you would hold an open source product accountable in court; that's worth exploring further. A hacker on the other hand almost by definition does not care about laws and protecting your data; quite the contrary in fact (I'm not referring to ethical/white hat hacking of course).

Windows 7 is not that far from it's most recent patch and they still offer extended support to those that pay for it. That tends to mean the worst of exploits will still be released to the public as they have to patch it for the extended support and it's a goodwill offering to the public. Once extended support ends, any hope of getting the most critical patches are mostly gone. With each passing day, Windows 7 will become less secure and more equatable to Windows XP/NT/etc. in terms of security.

Another factor might be the cause as well. Running on an old bloated install of an operating system (which ever it is) isn't as good as running on a fresh install. When upgrading to 10, you are comparing the old bloated 7 to a freshly installed 10.

It could simply be cleaning up the registry was all you needed.

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Nubatron wrote:

I think this thread is more about not staying on Windows 7 rather than moving to Windows 10 for performance reasons.

Really? Might I suggest taking a second look at the OP? Just read the first sentence, ffs. ;)

That said, a balance between security and performance is something we all want. Moving from 7 to 10 may represent a performance boost, but it also represents a number of compromises, most of which are especially offensive to informed and/or power users.

I genuinely think that Linux will represent that ideal compromise in the near future. The concerns you raise about trust are virtually a non-issue, since A) profiting off of users is not a prerequisite to the software's survival in the FOSS world, and B) code which is hostile or otherwise undesirable to the average consumer is immediately and transparently visible, virtually guaranteeing its removal or (more likely) non-inclusion.

Again, "near future." I don't think Linux is there yet. (And I know many stalwart Linux advocates would protest against that statement vehemently. But it is my opinion nonetheless.) But I do think it will be there very soon, and is worth keeping a close eye on.



Edit: Another reasonable question which I don't see many people asking is, "Why do all my other games perform really well on Windows 7, yet PoE alone requires changing my OS to Windows 10 to achieve acceptable performance?"

I don't know the answer to this question, but I do think it is a question worth asking. Does anyone know the answer?

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gibbousmoon wrote:

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Nubatron wrote:

I think this thread is more about not staying on Windows 7 rather than moving to Windows 10 for performance reasons.

Really? Might I suggest taking a second look at the OP? Just read the first sentence, ffs. ;)

That said, a balance between security and performance is something we all want. Moving from 7 to 10 may represent a performance boost, but it also represents a number of compromises, most of which are especially offensive to informed and/or power users.

I genuinely think that Linux will represent that ideal compromise in the near future. The concerns you raise about trust are virtually a non-issue, since A) profiting off of users is not a prerequisite to the software's survival in the FOSS world, and B) code which is hostile or otherwise undesirable to the average consumer is immediately and transparently visible, virtually guaranteeing its removal or (more likely) non-inclusion.

Again, "near future." I don't think Linux is there yet. (And I know many stalwart Linux advocates would protest against that statement vehemently. But it is my opinion nonetheless.) But I do think it will be there very soon, and is worth keeping a close eye on.

His post is about improving performance. He saw significant improvement going to windows 10. He clearly is advocating to move to an OS that improves performance. If you can get similar results from something else, I highly doubt the OP would push against that. The spirit of an argument is important as well.

On my phone so I’ll respond the the latter paragraphs later....just wanted to get that out of the way.

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Nubatron wrote:

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gibbousmoon wrote:

Really? Might I suggest taking a second look at the OP? Just read the first sentence, ffs. ;)

That said, a balance between security and performance is something we all want. Moving from 7 to 10 may represent a performance boost, but it also represents a number of compromises, most of which are especially offensive to informed and/or power users.

I genuinely think that Linux will represent that ideal compromise in the near future. The concerns you raise about trust are virtually a non-issue, since A) profiting off of users is not a prerequisite to the software's survival in the FOSS world, and B) code which is hostile or otherwise undesirable to the average consumer is immediately and transparently visible, virtually guaranteeing its removal or (more likely) non-inclusion.

Again, "near future." I don't think Linux is there yet. (And I know many stalwart Linux advocates would protest against that statement vehemently. But it is my opinion nonetheless.) But I do think it will be there very soon, and is worth keeping a close eye on.

His post is about improving performance. He saw significant improvement going to windows 10. He clearly is advocating to move to an OS that improves performance. If you can get similar results from something else, I highly doubt the OP would push against that. The spirit of an argument is important as well.

On my phone so I’ll respond the the latter paragraphs later....just wanted to get that out of the way.

I see. Perhaps you accidentally said the opposite of what you wanted to say.

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gibbousmoon wrote:

I see. Perhaps you accidentally said the opposite of what you wanted to say.

Very possible. I hate typing long responses on phone so might have phrased it poorly.