SSF > Trade Leagues

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Prizy wrote:

I can say the whole "gimping" thing is objectively false. The only exception to this is if you are making a build that requires a specific unique.

I like playing SSF as much as the next guy, even though I'm not playing SSF anymore, mainly due to time constraints and guild stuff. But I have to disagree with you here. The access to gear - and the practical value of currency are so much greater in a trading league. You ALWAYS have access to better gear by the click of a few buttons. You don't have that in SSF.

So SSF vs Trade? Yes, you are gimping yourself. Yes, you are putting a handicap on yourself. But you get a MUCH greater sense of progression and a MUCH greater sense of achievement. But saying that no access to the market isn't an objective handicap is, as you would call it; "objectively false".

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Prizy wrote:

I also don't understand the "Playing SSF is gimping your character" mentality.

it just might be because the extreme added extra time it takes you to progress where somebody in trade league already surpassed you 3 weeks ago might be considered gimping yourself

which is fine. it's still gimping

You have to take time off the table if you're comparing the two. Trading speeds up progression. No one will argue that it doesn't.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

You have to take time off the table if you're comparing the two. Trading speeds up progression. No one will argue that it doesn't.

You just called several people in this thread "no one". That's not nice. Shame on you.

SSF has potential but I dislike the limited builds, currency exchange and the annoying atlas.

You can change the meanings of the words I use after I use them and make literally anything I say false. Or you can listen to what the words I use mean in the context of my remark and comment intelligently on them.

But what you just did is pure bullshit.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

But what you just did is pure bullshit.

Meh, just shrug it off. Not like Charan's behavior is anything new.

Have a great day. I'll have no more of this.

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鬼殺し wrote:

Sometimes I get the feeling GGG didn't read that memo.

To be fair, there are a lot of memo's GGG haven't got. But this isn't one of them.

People ASKED for this. Hell, many of them demanded it. No increased drops. No other changes. Just their own ladder. Just this 'proof' that they're clean SSF'ers. Blaming the hype on GGG is just missing the target. In this case, they provided something that the community - at least parts of it - urged for. I can't even remember any attempts from GGG to build up any hype on the matter, but I may be wrong here.

What ere we stuck with? The same thing as we're always stuck with when the community gets 'segmented': Threads like this, where "my way or the highway". My way is coolest. My way is best. I'M MORE AWESOME. Or, as Shags is putting: My way is cleanest. As you so eloquently pointed out with your sarcasm earlier.

I hate all of you <3

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鬼殺し wrote:

The point stands: I wonder how many people who called for it actually embraced it...

We'll never know.

But it was always going to be a niche thing, in a game where every decision being made, is being made with trade in mind (well, except adding the SSF leagues :P). But I think the first 'S' in 'SSF' is as much of a hurdle as the 'SF' part. But that's just me. And I'm not going to cry. We wouldn't want a "SF > SSF" thread, would we?

GGG's stance on the matter will always be the same as towards the HC community: "They'll just have to cope"...