SSF > Trade Leagues

There are many reasons why (it's more challenging; it frees you from trading; it makes you craft; the list could go on...) but what it comes down to is this: SSF is superior to Trade Leagues.

There are many reasons why SSF can be more challenging.
However, there are not enough opportunities to challenge yourself.

Playing SSF means spending far too many hours grinding mindlessly content that is much easier than what you could interact with in trade league using gear that is beyond your reach without trade.

Next time im going to play in trade league. I prefer boring gearing process rather than wasting time on running empty maps, barely being able to encounter any real challenge at all.

In trade league you don't farm starforge because it's much more efficient to buy it.
In ssf you don't farm starforge because you lack maps to run for shaper sets.

In trade league you don't farm divination cards because there is no point in wasting time for 1c unique item.
In ssf you don't farm divination cards because cost of shaping atlas is so high you are more likely to find this unique item as random drop.

Sadly what could have been a game mode that enforces on you creativity turned into nothing more than content lock. In ssf you don't do something because you can't. You don't do it because you lack whatever currency you need (maps, fragments, sulphite etc.)

Ok, I tried SSF for the first time in this League (after doing two level 92's in regular Legion). I have played since 2013.

I enjoyed much of the experience but mostly only because Legion league loot and cyclone OP.

If you are only doing one character in a League you should not do SSF.
Thus won't be terribly disappointed in getting drops that your build will not use. I do not play standard - if you do then this is not applicable and I would recommend it without reservation.

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rockmassif wrote:

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pr13st wrote:

I always thought SSF was for people that

- have trouble interacting with others (maybe the superiority complex is generated by this, being "SSF" is just a crutch to excuse the lack of communication)
- enjoy the added challenge but are borderline masochistic.
- have a lot of time on their hands as the gameplay is gimping to say the least.
- are 100% percent casual and "afraid" or better yet overwhelmed by the mechanics so they take the "purest" approach.

It's quite funny that none of those so called reasons hit the mark. Good job being clueless!

You would say that, if you were a liar.

My opinion & to summarize this whole "debate".

Others may viewed SSF as superior because it's challenging, others viewed it as just restricting & not superior.


"Everything we hear is an opinion, not a truth. Everything we see is a perspective not the truth."

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boyandroid wrote:

My opinion & to summarize this whole "debate".

Just let people have their pissing contest.

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Saf3tyhazard wrote:

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rockmassif wrote:

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pr13st wrote:

I always thought SSF was for people that

- have trouble interacting with others (maybe the superiority complex is generated by this, being "SSF" is just a crutch to excuse the lack of communication)
- enjoy the added challenge but are borderline masochistic.
- have a lot of time on their hands as the gameplay is gimping to say the least.
- are 100% percent casual and "afraid" or better yet overwhelmed by the mechanics so they take the "purest" approach.

It's quite funny that none of those so called reasons hit the mark. Good job being clueless!

You would say that, if you were a liar.

I agree that none of those characterizations hit the mark for SSF players I know (nor myself, for that matter).

Does that make me a liar?

The SSF playstyle has its own appeal, and the trading playstyle has its own appeal, and everything in between has its own appeal. Different people find different things fun. Imagine that!

I do find it interesting to read about what others find fun and why, especially if I don't personally find it fun. This goes wider than just PoE, by the way: Some people really, really enjoy grand strategy, and I've never been able to see the appeal. Others enjoy team sport video games (baseball, football, basketball, etc.), and I don't.

Back in D2 games, trading was a really big part of my fun, and now I won't touch it with a 10-foot stick. But (in my case) this isn't because trading in PoE sucks; I wouldn't even know, as I've never bothered trying. I think it speaks more to how the game is robust enough to accommodate SSF playstyles in ways D2 was not. And GGG is definitely worthy of praise in that regard.

(I do have other reasons for embracing SSF that relate to poor balance decisions on the part of GGG and the relative impact that has had on the economy, but that's a discussion for another thread.)

Have fun with your poopy drops and no way to trade lol

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DamageIncorporated wrote:

Have fun with your poopy drops and no way to trade lol

Oh yeah... drops are SOOO bad...




They really aren't.

Delusional lol