For the love of god, please remove Labyrinth from game.

I like it. I usually get good loot and the enchant at the end is sweet.
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While i personally don't enjoy the lab, it is amazing content. It won't be removed. Just get good.
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Rexeos wrote:
Those who like lab - keep it for them, but for rest of us just make solo Izaro rooms only to fight him for ascendancy points without rewards/enchants = everybody is happy.

It isn't as simple as that, you know, said it before that I like the lab as an ascendancy trial, it's a different piece of content that does something different and significant for my character, it's an event of sorts. It wouldn't work for me as a farming ground, probably wouldn't play it at all.
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Turtledove wrote:
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Cyzax wrote:
The number of players not liking the labyrinth is fairly small (but they're very vocal)...

Over 420 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1030 posters in support

The peak number of people playing PoE at the start of this league was in the area of 230.000!
Your 1030 posters are a tiny, TINY minority!

People post when they're dissatisfied, not when they're satisfied, so you can't ACTUALLY use your 1030 for anything... Far, FAR more players like, or at least doesn't dislike, the labyrinth, thus it should (of course) stay.
Last edited by Cyzax#3287 on Jun 15, 2019, 7:47:04 AM
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Cyzax wrote:
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Turtledove wrote:
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Cyzax wrote:
The number of players not liking the labyrinth is fairly small (but they're very vocal)...

Over 420 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1030 posters in support

The peak number of people playing PoE at the start of this league was in the area of 230.000!
Your 1030 posters are a tiny, TINY minority!

People post when they're dissatisfied, not when they're satisfied, so you can't ACTUALLY use your 1030 for anything... Far, FAR more players like, or at least doesn't dislike, the labyrinth, thus it should (of course) stay.


You really don't know what you're talking about. Your conclusions are as bogus as they come.

While your assertion that people are more likely to complain than to state their approval is true, this fact is not really very relevant to this situation when talking about the general player base. RARELY has anyone come into this forum and made their first post to complain about lab.

Some folks long ago made this argument and a similar even sillier argument that there was only a small handful of people that were creating accounts just to post their dislike for lab from multiple accounts to make it appear to be more people and so I tracked it. Also, that vast majority of the 1030 is from just the Feedback and Suggestions part of the forum. The list contains info about a couple of threads from other forums that seem to demonstrate that a higher percentage of the posters are new to the list when analysis is done on threads outside Feedback and Suggestions. The people posting on the forum in total is a tiny, TINY minority.

There is no other topic that has come close to 400 threads.

The labyrinth should stay as is for optional rewards because some people enjoy it.
Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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If they put the Ascendancy points behind an even harder, more tedious and borderline frustrating piece of content, I'd be more than fine if they disconnected them from the Lab.

I don't really mind the Lab or what happens with it, even though I personally have no issues with it. Some builds are better than others at it, just like bossing, mapping, etc. You make a choice, it has consequences.

I just don't want to see people unwilling to pay the price for their choice, get free ascendancy points. Not because I don't like them or don't grant them easy points, but simply because I don't want to see the game go down the gutter. Dumbing down is suicide, so I only have one thing to say to Lab haters:

GET GOOD.

Sums it up noicely.
Carry on my waypoint son, there'll be peace when maps are done.
Lay your portal gem to rest, don't you die no more.

'Cause it's a bitter sweet symphony this league.
Try to make maps meet, you're a slave to the meta, then you leave.
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Xavathos wrote:


GET GOOD.

Sums it up noicely.


"Get good" really has nothing to do with it. I'm plenty good as are most of the people that complain, I'm sure, because it has been around so long we've all had to do it plenty of times to "get good" at it. The problem is that the content is boring crap content. It should be optional so that people that like it can still do it but people that consider it boring crap don't have to.
Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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Turtledove wrote:
"Get good" really has nothing to do with it. I'm plenty good as are most of the people that complain, I'm sure, because it has been around so long we've all had to do it plenty of times to "get good" at it. The problem is that the content is boring crap content. It should be optional so that people that like it can still do it but people that consider it boring crap don't have to.



Remember when I won a screenshot contest and made everyone butt-hurt? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
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Turtledove wrote:
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Xavathos wrote:


GET GOOD.

Sums it up noicely.


"Get good" really has nothing to do with it. I'm plenty good as are most of the people that complain, I'm sure, because it has been around so long we've all had to do it plenty of times to "get good" at it. The problem is that the content is boring crap content. It should be optional so that people that like it can still do it but people that consider it boring crap don't have to.


Well, then there is no problem. You can easily do the Lab for your class points, and never look at it again.
Carry on my waypoint son, there'll be peace when maps are done.
Lay your portal gem to rest, don't you die no more.

'Cause it's a bitter sweet symphony this league.
Try to make maps meet, you're a slave to the meta, then you leave.
I actually like the Lab, but I can understand why people are frustrated with it.

Something they can do is move enchants out of Lab and into mapping somehow, and make it such that every coffer in the Lab drops maps of various tiers based on the lab difficulty level (only t16 will be inaccessible or at the very least very rare).

This way, players still have a means of getting maps to continue running content, Lab still has a purpose, and people can get enchants without feeling required to do Lab to get them.

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