Time Capsule from PoE Closed Beta -- a classic PoE vs D3 thread circa 2012
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SIXTH CLASS! STALKER!!!
...Then the Templar and the Stalker can get together and trade stories of their 'crimes against Oriath'...From one pervert to another. Account sharing/boosting is a bannable offence. No ifs, ands, or buts. No exceptions. Not even for billionaires.
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" Yes it was aimed at you and yes it is really easy to say a game is shit out of personal distaste, sadly most people fall for it. The BF vs COD war is a good case to look at fr that. Like Epsilon I hope they have improved things from what people have said, personally I think the consistent delays may be proof that they listened, though it could just be blizzard building up hype which will cause the game to feel worse then it is for most people. Damn you power of Hype. |
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Dont let the rediculous marketing fool you, D3 will be a great game. However, I hope they move away from this wow-esque streamlining and remember that they defined the gritty grind of the arpg genre.
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They need to streamline for customer increase, it is a business after all. the hope is more that they leave us who enjoy the less streamlined that option rather then force us to be handheld.
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Thats half the thing, I kind of don't want much stream-lining at all becuase, I mean, its Diablo, its near sacraligious in my mind to figure stream-lining the game. Customer increase be damned
THIS IS DIABLO 3. /derp |
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haha well yeah you are right in that respect.
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" That's just it, "They," as in the people the developed Diablo 1 and 2, are no longer at Blizzard. Were left with the WOW team, who seem to have quite the sense if entitlement, despite this being their first Diablo game. Hence why I become frustrated when people call Torchlight an imitator. Several of the Torchlight devs were members of Blizzard North, and they were the ones that created the Diablo franchise. Oh, and im not saying some of the mechanics in D2 weren't broken, but those mechanics were not the only alternative to the over simplified casual game were being given. |
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" The fact that the original diablo crew is part of Torchlight is probably one of the reasons its so bloody good, and the reason I will be getting torchligh 2 in a flash. |
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I'm disturbed when people have this undying faith that Blizzard has never made a disappointment even though Diablo III has been getting the most controversy and room for error than any other Blizzard game before it. It'll be a really great game but it all depends on where you are at this point. If I played the latest Call of Duty, I'd find it fantastic since it is my first one. If I played those before it, it may be disappointing as little was improved on or the improvements made were not necessary.
At this point, I think you don't really need to play D3 to know if you'll love it or hate it. My friend used to love Final Fantasy VII but could *never* watch Baldur's Gate for more than ten minutes. It truly is a disappointment in the sense that it is Blizzard's first "polarizing" game of sorts. Before you would have the simplicity but also the untapped complexity included. It is sort of like two people messing around in Street Fighter II in one house while two others in another are getting into the frame data and discovering all this stuff possible to do with the engine and characters. Will Diablo III have someone like a Jarulf? I don't see it happening, personally. Blizzard has made it clear that they want to talk an already simple formula and embarrassingly simplify it more. I'll play D3 because I could be completely wrong and the game may be something truly creative and in that case I will gladly eat an article of clothing on a stream. But my prediction is that while it will be amusing, it won't keep me around like D2 did. It even depresses me that D2 will be as barren as D1 became after that was released. At this point, POE needs to succeed because I and many others in the future will need that alternative to turn to once D3 loses the magic. D2 will likely be filled with hackers that duplicate items unattended to on the War Games... er, Battle.net v1.0 server and remove any joy from the game that it previously had. The large "boom" that D2 got since 2008 will be diminished as people will move on to D3. |
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The most disturbing is how ppl dont want to move forward, and whatever a company does, fans arent satisfied, Diablo III was made to exists for many years and it has a lore to follow and that lore indicates a progression.
now PoE is trying to replicate D1 and D2 but without the lore and without some key elements like randomness and excitment of the areas, weapons, skills, mobs. i like PoE but seeing what D3, Torchlight 2 and Grim Dawn has to offer it will be hard to keep up. another thing that i dont like is the free to play thing, yeah go ahead play for free but your chars will always look same with all the others and eventually everybody will pay for some cosmetics, i think Grim Dawn's way of payment is fair. |
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