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CharanJaydemyr wrote:
Tagek, you're right. D3 WILL have more builds. At end-game. Of that I have no doubt. I know this is well-trodden ground for both of us, but I want you to understand that I do see how it will be. That many skills, all those runes at your disposal...end-game D3 will be incredible.
And I know you, and millions aside, will love it.
Believe me when I say I envy you that. I think that's what people are also not quite grasping in all this. I'm not hating on D3, to speak colloquially; I'm hating on Blizzard for taking that desire to love D3 away from me. It could have been us both, Tagek. You know it could have. If only they'd bloody kept that original skill rune system.
But it won't be us. You get that awesome experience of playing-and-loving-Diablo and I do not.
Pure envy, dude.
After all the responses I still don't understand your gripe with not having the old system though.
Why? You say you want to plan out and make a build from the start.
The thing is, this is simply not possible with the old system. If you planned out a build for cleave with the crimson rune for example, that's all fine on paper.
In the game however, who says you'll actually find a crimson rune fast? Maybe you won't find a crimson rune until level 40, there goes your idea of 'having a certain build from the start'.
I'll admit, I was under the impression that the rank 1 runes would drop almost as frequently as chipped gems. There was no reason for them not to, really. For a rank 1 (out of 7) rune to drop at level 40 makes *no sense at all*.
So that's the gripe, really. They advertised 7 ranks of skill rune, and said each rune would work with any skill. Including the lowest possible level skill. So it would make sense that the weakest rank rune would drop early if not frequently.
It's all a moot point, though...and just talking about what-never-will-be makes me a little sad. You've made me a little sad, Tagek. Hope you're proud.
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Posted byForeverhappychan#4626on Apr 5, 2012, 10:34:45 AMAlpha Member
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CharanJaydemyr wrote:
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Tagek wrote:
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CharanJaydemyr wrote:
Tagek, you're right. D3 WILL have more builds. At end-game. Of that I have no doubt. I know this is well-trodden ground for both of us, but I want you to understand that I do see how it will be. That many skills, all those runes at your disposal...end-game D3 will be incredible.
And I know you, and millions aside, will love it.
Believe me when I say I envy you that. I think that's what people are also not quite grasping in all this. I'm not hating on D3, to speak colloquially; I'm hating on Blizzard for taking that desire to love D3 away from me. It could have been us both, Tagek. You know it could have. If only they'd bloody kept that original skill rune system.
But it won't be us. You get that awesome experience of playing-and-loving-Diablo and I do not.
Pure envy, dude.
After all the responses I still don't understand your gripe with not having the old system though.
Why? You say you want to plan out and make a build from the start.
The thing is, this is simply not possible with the old system. If you planned out a build for cleave with the crimson rune for example, that's all fine on paper.
In the game however, who says you'll actually find a crimson rune fast? Maybe you won't find a crimson rune until level 40, there goes your idea of 'having a certain build from the start'.
I'll admit, I was under the impression that the rank 1 runes would drop almost as frequently as chipped gems. There was no reason for them not to, really. For a rank 1 (out of 7) rune to drop at level 40 makes *no sense at all*.
So that's the gripe, really. They advertised 7 ranks of skill rune, and said each rune would work with any skill. Including the lowest possible level skill. So it would make sense that the weakest rank rune would drop early if not frequently.
It's all a moot point, though...and just talking about what-never-will-be makes me a little sad. You've made me a little sad, Tagek. Hope you're proud.
Yes maybe the lower ranks do, but why would you use a low rank of 1 rune when you have a much higher rank of another? It just makes for a very non-sensical build.
The system was just very flawed at it's core.
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Posted byTagek#6585on Apr 5, 2012, 10:36:25 AM
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...You know, Charan would LOVE Flicker Strike, but he hasn't found it yet. I figure it's a relatively high level gem, so I can wait. He's still doing his thing until then.
No skill gem I haven't found yet is *integral* to any of my builds. I hope that makes sense...
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Posted byForeverhappychan#4626on Apr 5, 2012, 10:37:04 AMAlpha Member
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Tagek wrote:
Yes maybe the lower ranks do, but why would you use a low rank of 1 rune when you have a much higher rank of another? It just makes for a very non-sensical build.
The system was just very flawed at it's core.
Because I like fire.
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Posted byForeverhappychan#4626on Apr 5, 2012, 10:37:40 AMAlpha Member
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I just wish DIII stuck with the old skill trees. I don't really like the current skills-for-free system, and I'm not convinced the Nephalem Buff will make a difference.
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Posted byDarkEquinox#5007on Apr 5, 2012, 10:37:46 AM
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Me:
'Well there aren't many people (on these forums) that actually put up good arguments against path of exile, I'm sure there would be plenty of people (perhaps including you and charan) who would try to defend the game then.'
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Nachash:
'I agree there aren't many people that actually put up good arguments against Path of Exile ;-)'
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Ic what you did there.
But really, I could go and make a thread about all the things I dislike about path of exile in relation to what I like my perfect ARPG to be like, but that's rather pointless. It doesn't bring anyone anything and I don't think I'd be able to deal with people like rpgtrolliac and flythetrollephant.
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Posted byTagek#6585on Apr 5, 2012, 10:38:49 AM
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DarkEquinox wrote:
I just wish DIII stuck with the old skill trees. I don't really like the current skills-for-free system, and I'm not convinced the Nephalem Buff will make a difference.
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Nachash wrote:
I agree there aren't many people that actually put up good arguments against Path of Exile ;-)
That may have something to do with it being a PoE forum.
Aaaand this ^
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Posted byTagek#6585on Apr 5, 2012, 10:39:27 AM
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DarkEquinox wrote:
I just wish DIII stuck with the old skill trees. I don't really like the current skills-for-free system, and I'm not convinced the Nephalem Buff will make a difference.
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Nachash wrote:
I agree there aren't many people that actually put up good arguments against Path of Exile ;-)
That may have something to do with it being a PoE forum.
You'll find plenty of great arguments against PoE in the beta feedback forum. ArcieM produced a WICKED one that I've yet to complete my response to. It's that hardcore. Seriously.
I view this forum as the first-stop for people wondering 'why PoE?'
Solid arguments against it are probably not as conducive for further interest as solid arguments for it.
But don't doubt for a second I couldn't argue reasonably against PoE. I'd just have to shift gears.
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Posted byForeverhappychan#4626on Apr 5, 2012, 10:40:46 AMAlpha Member
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CharanJaydemyr wrote:
...You know, Charan would LOVE Flicker Strike, but he hasn't found it yet. I figure it's a relatively high level gem, so I can wait. He's still doing his thing until then.
No skill gem I haven't found yet is *integral* to any of my builds. I hope that makes sense...
It's actually a pretty low level gem, I have found it plenty of times.
And I understand what you mean, but you said plenty of times that you like to plan out builds and play the way you want to. Which again, with the old rune system, was pretty nonsensical.
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Posted byTagek#6585on Apr 5, 2012, 10:40:53 AM
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DarkEquinox wrote:
I just wish DIII stuck with the old skill trees. I don't really like the current skills-for-free system, and I'm not convinced the Nephalem Buff will make a difference.
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Nachash wrote:
I agree there aren't many people that actually put up good arguments against Path of Exile ;-)
That may have something to do with it being a PoE forum.
or maybe they don't want to listen ^^;
"nah nah nah PoE is the best game in the world!" ^^;
edit: yeah, you can get Flicker Strike in act 1.
PoE forums ignore list script:
http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/162657
0.4: added "ignore" button. ignore list is now saved locally. Last edited by kodr#0209 on Apr 5, 2012, 10:42:12 AM
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