Time Capsule from PoE Closed Beta -- a classic PoE vs D3 thread circa 2012
" Maybe it will destroy it, but what I wanted to say if it's legal, it's destroyed from the beginning. But there is one thing that CharanJaydemyr said. Why would people do it in PoE when in d3 it's much easier and legal to do it. |
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...Come on. PoE is free. All content is free. I'm not going to be 'tempted' by the cash shop, I'm going to give myself a budget proportionate to what D3 would have cost me. And I am very much convinced that will get me quite a lot of stuff to add to my PoE goodness. Making a game that is clearly not free to make, free to play (again, it's really a sort of donation system -- a lot of charities give you things if you donate to a certain point) and relying on post-release profit is not greed. That's business. That's necessary. That's...how should we call it? Ethical. That is the word even GGG use.
Blizzard are not being ethical. They are being greedy, Tagek. Come on, you can say it. Blizzard. Are. Being. Greedy. And no, they're not the only ones. Capcom hiding its 'full' version of SFxT ON DISC? Oh man. Sting, burn and ow. But that doesn't justify it. The more I talk about this, the more I realise that the RMAH really is a big part of why I can't bring myself to play Diablo 3. And here I thought I had a nice, rational explanation involving changing skill systems and restriction of class flexibility. Nope, I'm just being stupidly (and very hypocritically: I have stolen, lied, cheated...my slate is far from clean) moral. I think it's the fact that Blizzard isn't just greedy, they're already on top and milking it for all it's worth. There's nothing to be admired there at all. https://linktr.ee/wjameschan -- everything I've ever done worth talking about, and even that is debatable.
Huh. My mace dude is now an actual cultist of Chayula. That's kinda wild. |
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" Well that's just assuming POE becomes unsuccessful. This isn't what it was really about, though. It was about Legal vs Illegal. The difference will be very small, nigh unnoticable. Again, it was incredibly easy to do it in d2. And how is it destroyed again? There's a non-cash auction house too. Not to mension the fact that it's now much easier for individuals to find their own gear, rather than just trading for it. Really, no one can pass judgment on the system until the game has been out for a while. It's far to complex to pass judgment on so soon. I personally feel it will be fine, and even if a large amount of people use the cash shop, good for them, why should I care? Again, even in pvp, you are matched up with people equal to you, so it's no issue there in any way, shape or form. ''Stand amongst the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters.
The silence is your answer.'' IGN: Vaeralyse |
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" That assumes that people that will farm for real money will go to d3 and not PoE. Incredibly easy is in d3, in d2, it was not that easy. " Non-cash is not the same as cash auction house. You should know that. " Its not complex at all, pay real money for advantage in game. Its simple as that. " Well for a non PvP game, it maybe is not that big problem, for a more PvP game it is. |
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" The failure in your logic is that you don't actually have an advantage over other players by having better gear, in D3 that is. There's no comparison between players. No guilds that have gear requirements, no raids, etc. Only the arena system, that matches you with similar people, thus gear is not an issue there. ''Stand amongst the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters.
The silence is your answer.'' IGN: Vaeralyse |
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what a waste of time if anyone bothered to read OP
guaranteed day 1 diablo 3 release, he will be playing it, |
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" Why would you admire it? It's a business model. Again, you, and other people, are making fuss over a company making money. There's drug companies out there that sell drugs for 200$, while they would still make a profit if they sold it for 1$. That is how businesses work. It's hypocritical to believe GGG is any more ethical than blizzard. The only reason they won't have an initial purchasing fee is because they obviously wouldn't survive (or at least, they assume they wouldn't survive) next to a game like diablo 3. Thus they went for a free to play with purchases after release model. ''Stand amongst the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters. The silence is your answer.'' IGN: Vaeralyse Last edited by Tagek#6585 on Mar 30, 2012, 6:31:11 PM
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" No, I'm rather convinced that his feelings are quite genuine, which is an admirable trait / characteristic to posses imho. ''Stand amongst the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters. The silence is your answer.'' IGN: Vaeralyse Last edited by Tagek#6585 on Mar 30, 2012, 6:38:17 PM
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" Ayup, they are. It is a gross mistake to confuse me for anything but what I truly am: a firmly Gen-X gamer who was wearing glasses before most hipsters were even born. https://linktr.ee/wjameschan -- everything I've ever done worth talking about, and even that is debatable.
Huh. My mace dude is now an actual cultist of Chayula. That's kinda wild. |
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" My logic is centered about PoE, not D3. Will you have advantage in PoE if you buy items with real money in open PvP and lader? Yes, and thats what i was saying. If you can buy items in d3 will you be more powerful then others? Yes. Is there any competition? No, but that doesn't change the fact that people buy power with money becose of RMHA, and that would also hapen in PoE if there was RMHA. Also about PvP in d3 becose I didnt folow it, while they take in consideration your items, or only lvl? Do you like RMHA, and will you use it for buying items with real money? Last edited by Ragnar119#4963 on Mar 30, 2012, 6:59:10 PM
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