Straw poll: do you like the lab? [UPDATED W. RESULT]

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Turtledove wrote:
-snipped copy/paste post from 3 pages ago-

The way you copy paste responses multiple times per thread is pretty fucking annoying.

For the record, the only reason I multi-voted in that poll was to test to see if it was rigged due to this statement:

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Turtledove wrote:

Those 5 people are very tricky and must have figured out a way to cheat the poll. :-)


I observed the poll for a day and as Turtle says, the votes were trickling in. After a short time it became obvious that every like was immediately countered with a dislike. So I put in 25 votes and was immediately met with 25 counter votes. I did that 4 times over the course of 3 days and each time got the same results. 100 votes met by 100 immediate counter votes on a poll that had a small trickle of voting. Does that not prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the poll is rigged?

I explained this to you before, it's pretty convenient that you don't remember. Also after asking you to leave me out of your posts you insist on keeping me a part of the discussion.

And I did explain to you how easy it is to multi-vote in polls hosted by that site. You use TOR browser, vote, change identity, vote, change identity, etc...
It takes like 4 clicks per vote.
Edit: It took like 6 really, I forgot about CAPTCHA. Something you have to deal with constantly with sites that use Cloudflare when you're using TOR.

This all is the result of you and yours using that poll as definitive proof that 'a majority' hated the laby. It was clearly rigged, and with that quote up there it gave me the feeling that you knew it was rigged.

Guess it would be pointless asking you to leave me out of your posts again huh?
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Last edited by Shovelcut#3450 on Jun 20, 2017, 5:21:08 PM
Every for does seem to be met immediately with an against. It does seem to be botted.
Last edited by j33bus#3399 on Jun 20, 2017, 5:20:27 PM
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goetzjam wrote:
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mark1030 wrote:
The people who voted they liked the lab in previous polls aren't bothering to vote in subsequent polls. The people who hate the lab will vote in every single poll they can.


Yup


Nope
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The_Reporter wrote:
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goetzjam wrote:
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mark1030 wrote:
The people who voted they liked the lab in previous polls aren't bothering to vote in subsequent polls. The people who hate the lab will vote in every single poll they can.


Yup


Nope
I didn't vote and I know quite a few "likes" that didn't vote. I don't know any "hates" that decided to not express their hatred by voting. The "likes" know it's a BS poll. The "hates" think it means something so naturally they want to participate.
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Nice lie, man. Whatever helps. :)
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Shovelcut wrote:
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Turtledove wrote:
-snipped copy/paste post from 3 pages ago-

The way you copy paste responses multiple times per thread is pretty fucking annoying.

For the record, the only reason I multi-voted in that poll was to test to see if it was rigged due to this statement:

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Turtledove wrote:

Those 5 people are very tricky and must have figured out a way to cheat the poll. :-)


I observed the poll for a day and as Turtle says, the votes were trickling in. After a short time it became obvious that every like was immediately countered with a dislike. So I put in 25 votes and was immediately met with 25 counter votes. I did that 4 times over the course of 3 days and each time got the same results. 100 votes met by 100 immediate counter votes on a poll that had a small trickle of voting. Does that not prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the poll is rigged?

I explained this to you before, it's pretty convenient that you don't remember. Also after asking you to leave me out of your posts you insist on keeping me a part of the discussion.

And I did explain to you how easy it is to multi-vote in polls hosted by that site. You use TOR browser, vote, change identity, vote, change identity, etc...
It takes like 4 clicks per vote.
Edit: It took like 6 really, I forgot about CAPTCHA. Something you have to deal with constantly with sites that use Cloudflare when you're using TOR.

This all is the result of you and yours using that poll as definitive proof that 'a majority' hated the laby. It was clearly rigged, and with that quote up there it gave me the feeling that you knew it was rigged.

Guess it would be pointless asking you to leave me out of your posts again huh?


Yes, I became convinced that the poll was being rigged but never knew who was doing it. Although I suspected that you or Mark1080 were stuffing the ballot box on the pro side. This is the first time I ever knew who stuffed at least the one side.

Regarding not mentioning you, talk to Mark not to me. Mark1080 brought you up not me.
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I wasn't talking to you when I mentioned Shovelcut's name. I don't know why you inserted yourself into that particular exchange.

I only voted once in that poll. I never stuffed anything. I didn't vote in any other polls including the bogus one in this thread. But Shovelcut's "ballot stuffing" showed that it could be done and that there were automatic counter "ballot stuffing" votes for each one of his votes. Which just shows how ridiculous it is to put any stock into the results of such a poll.
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mark1030 wrote:
I wasn't talking to you when I mentioned Shovelcut's name. I don't know why you inserted yourself into that particular exchange.

I only voted once in that poll. I never stuffed anything. I didn't vote in any other polls including the bogus one in this thread. But Shovelcut's "ballot stuffing" showed that it could be done and that there were automatic counter "ballot stuffing" votes for each one of his votes. Which just shows how ridiculous it is to put any stock into the results of such a poll.


I never meant to accuse you of stuffing the ballot box. I only mentioned my suspicion that you or Shovelcut had stuffed the ballot box after you implied that Shovelcut had stuffed the ballot box. Also, I only responded to the piece of this thread discussing this after someone PM'ed me on the topic. So, here's what I'll do in response to Shovelcut's demand that I no longer mention him. I will make an attempt of from now on responding to ANY and all posts that you mention Shovelcut and try to remember to in response to your post to also mention Shovelcut's name in my response! :-)
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Lol. Nobody trust the polls apparently. People who liked the lab think the people who don't stuffed it. People who don't like the lab think the people who liked the lab stuffed it too.

The poll was a good idea, no doubts there, but if nobody trusts the integrity of the system, it really doesn't mean much.

You might need to just request people to say how they voted. Maybe put the name of each person under either "likes the lab" or "does not like the lab." but the people who think the vote is rigged can do that. At least it would it help verify results.
So let me get this straight. Shovelcut stuffed the ballot box to prove it was easy to rig, admitted to it immediately pages ago, re-clarified later, pointing out that his purposeful rigging seemed to be met with counter-but-still-rigged voting, and the take away is "Look he stuffed the ballot box. The pro labbers are cheating!"

This is getting to alt-right level of political discourse, jesus...
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And I hear her now
And I'm nearer to
The Salvation Code"
Last edited by PleiadesBlackstar#6327 on Jun 21, 2017, 1:39:11 AM

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