The Chisel Bubble: Using currency to roll maps, vs buying maps

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Norc wrote:

Must have been someone else that was talking about blue tier 11 then. Sorry about that.

I ended up running blues up through 7, I think, and I regret it. I am never running out of alchs, and I feel like I delayed my map progression by doing that. I can't imagine that you "save" enough alchs to actually buy maps of any value with this process, and trading alchs for chaos seems like a pain and potential rip off. I know I certainly didn't save much by going a level or two beyond the convential "run blue vs. alch and go" threshhold.

Plus if you are in Standard like me, Alot of maps are very expensive. They are overpriced just like everything else being sold in Standard....... I think buying maps would work for leagues, but not for over-inflated Standard League.

Since this discussion is talking about maps and worth of currency, I hope this isn't too off topic:

At what tier is it worthwhile due the tier up recipe? (vendor recipe: 3 of the same map to get another map of the same tier)

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GuardianJohn wrote:

Since this discussion is talking about maps and worth of currency, I hope this isn't too off topic:

At what tier is it worthwhile due the tier up recipe? (vendor recipe: 3 of the same map to get another map of the same tier)

To figure this out, you want to look at the map market and figure out where pricing starts in serious. Everything below a certain Tier is going to sell for about 1 Alch or 1 Chisel, prices don't really go lower. For example, in Talisman SC as of now, up until Tier 7 sells for 1 Alch, but if you search Tier 8 you'll get 2 results of 1 Alch or less, those two don't count.

Which means: Tier 6 or less are virtually worthless, Tier 8 and higher have some trade value (even if only about 1c), and it's kinda hard to tell with Tier 7 (maybe 1 Alch, maybe worthless).

This means: In Talisman SC, 3-1 formula is just fine to convert Tier 6 (or lower) up to Tier 7. You don't want to turn Tier 8 (or higher) to Tier 9. And Tier 7 to Tier 8 is a bit of a tossup; I'd do it if my build enjoys running unidentified blue maps, by Transmuting the 3 before vendoring them.

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Mentoya wrote:

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Norc wrote:

Must have been someone else that was talking about blue tier 11 then. Sorry about that.

I ended up running blues up through 7, I think, and I regret it. I am never running out of alchs, and I feel like I delayed my map progression by doing that. I can't imagine that you "save" enough alchs to actually buy maps of any value with this process, and trading alchs for chaos seems like a pain and potential rip off. I know I certainly didn't save much by going a level or two beyond the convential "run blue vs. alch and go" threshhold.

Plus if you are in Standard like me, Alot of maps are very expensive. They are overpriced just like everything else being sold in Standard....... I think buying maps would work for leagues, but not for over-inflated Standard League.

...maps are about the only thing more expensive on standard.

...please stop repeating lies without checking for yourself.

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Fluffy_Puppies wrote:

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Mentoya wrote:

Alot of maps are very expensive. They are overpriced just like everything else being sold in Standard....... I think buying maps would work for leagues, but not for over-inflated Standard League.

...maps are about the only thing more expensive on standard.

...please stop repeating lies without checking for yourself.

You know, I actually did this in my research for the OP. And the results are essentially in the OP: Talisman SC has the cheapest Tier 8 maps, Standard has the most expensive Tier 8 maps, but they're about tied for Tier 11 maps. Sorry, but it's more complicated than "Things in League A cost less/more than things in League B." (I'm guessing the difference in Tier 8 maps is mostly because Standard players don't like getting off their butts for less than 1c or some similar.)

Note: Extremely incorrect information prior to lightning edit.

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Fluffy_Puppies wrote:

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Mentoya wrote:

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Norc wrote:

Must have been someone else that was talking about blue tier 11 then. Sorry about that.

I ended up running blues up through 7, I think, and I regret it. I am never running out of alchs, and I feel like I delayed my map progression by doing that. I can't imagine that you "save" enough alchs to actually buy maps of any value with this process, and trading alchs for chaos seems like a pain and potential rip off. I know I certainly didn't save much by going a level or two beyond the convential "run blue vs. alch and go" threshhold.

Plus if you are in Standard like me, Alot of maps are very expensive. They are overpriced just like everything else being sold in Standard....... I think buying maps would work for leagues, but not for over-inflated Standard League.

...maps are about the only thing more expensive on standard.

...please stop repeating lies without checking for yourself.

well, it's possible I was looking at the unique maps when I saw the prices then.... Also, if the maps were sold in bunches i.e... buy 10 at a time, buy 20 at a time, buy 30 at a time, then it would be more worth it, as opposed to messaging one person to buy a map for a fuse, messaging another person buy a map for an alch, then messaging another person to buy another map for an alch. That gets to be ridiculous. Since I can easily rip through a map in 5 minutes with my build, that's alot of work, especially considering 1/2 of the people you message never even reply.

Serial? t9 maps in sc are practically free.

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TheAnuhart wrote:

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Asmosis wrote:

unless your paying real cash, then no you are not paying for content

We can all make rules up that make no sense but fit a point.

Doesn't make them or the point right.

Are you trolling?


I started to write a whole long thing but I gotta ask first.

one side note, scrotie: a majority following your advise would increase map prices because a more or less fixed supply would be hit by a increased demand.

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vio wrote:

one side note, scrotie: a majority following your advise would increase map prices because a more or less fixed supply would be hit by a increased demand.

Yep. For the smart people out there, the important part is not which Tier I said to start Alching at, but how I determined which Tier. Market conditions can change everything.