...::: SFL Poll results and conclusions :::...

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Miszou wrote:

"Self found league" is just a side effect of a terrible trading interface.

It's a band-aid on the wrong problem.

And excluding the guild bank, I play "self-found" and I don't think my gaming experience suffers for it.

Exactly how I feel.

These polls are so useless. People who truly don't care and those who don't want a sfl aren't voting in your polls, for the most part.
Obviously people who want a sfl are. Oh wow would you look at the results!

GGG really needs to implement paid leagues. That would fix the problem.

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miljan wrote:

GGG really needs to implement paid leagues. That would fix the problem.

Do you really believe you'll be able to pay for a permanent league, or even a 4 month one?

Even if they would allow you, you can bet it's going to be crazy expensive.

Why did I look at this thread? Because poll results are interesting, fanciful things, subject to all sorts of bias. The bias is strong in this poll.

Who is likeliest to even look at a thread about (for example) Self-Found Leagues?

People interested in SFL.

Of those who look at such a thread, who is likeliest to post, rather than simply to go look at something else?

People interested in SFL.

Your sampling was largely from people with a strong positive bias for the subject. The results are only indicative of their bias, not of any statistical significance, relative to the forum population (which, itself, has characteristics which separate it from the much larger player base, many of whom do not use the forum).

Don't read too much into those results. ='[.]'=

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boof wrote:

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miljan wrote:

GGG really needs to implement paid leagues. That would fix the problem.

Do you really believe you'll be able to pay for a permanent league, or even a 4 month one?

Even if they would allow you, you can bet it's going to be crazy expensive.

Are you sure it will be expensive? Its not like 1000 of people will play on it, just few.

They announced a rework of the trading system at release (i say announced because i don't believe they put a specific patch number on it) and are working on that as we speak.

Why does this sfl business has to return before that new trading system is implemented and the findings of that system are gathered by GGG themselves? It has been stated by GGG that a self found playmode can already be achieved within the current model. If you disagree then that is your business, but i for one strongly disagree. It is posible, everything is in the game that is needed for a SF experience.

The only problem i see are people comparing themselves with other people, and as a result are left unsatisfied with there own experience of the game. Sadly this is neither GGG's fault ore those other people's fault.
I will let you decide how one can fix that issue.

The fact you could not wait for the new trading system shows the maturity of your resolve and your faith in GGG.

Peace
-Boem-

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Xavderion wrote:

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SirSid wrote:

Just play self found for crying out loud.


Stop with the thread about it evrey 2 days FFS.


If u are playing self found , and not trading with others then y in the world would u even need a sepreat ladder for that ? thares nothing stoping u from doing this now , In fact i myself often do. If others are trading in the same ladder as u playing self found it has no impact on u what so ever, who cares ?

They want increased drop rates. Which also makes the poll kinda silly, I mean if you ask an average player 'hey do u want more lewtz??', of course he will say yes.

and what? Your a bad noob because you like to trade and flip items?

It really is like I went back in time. The people against a good idea with good intentions still say the most retarded stereotypical BS over and over again.

I disagree with Scrotie but at least he puts thought into his posts other than "hurr durr you just want more lootz and and easier game durrrrr"

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Boem wrote:

The fact you could not wait for the new trading system shows the maturity of your resolve and your faith in GGG.

-Boem-

If you people took any time whatsoever in really thinking about why people want a SFL then maybe you would realize that improved trading does absolutely nothing to fix any of the complaints.

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iamstryker wrote:

and what? Your a bad noob because you like to trade and flip items?

It really is like I went back in time. The people against a good idea with good intentions still say the most retarded stereotypical BS over and over again.

I disagree with Scrotie but at least he puts thought into his posts other than "hurr durr you just want more lootz and and easier game durrrrr"

No need to get mad. I just stated a fact, the thread was about a SFL with increased drop rates. So everyone who voted yes wants increased drop rates.

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Xavderion wrote:

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iamstryker wrote:

and what? Your a bad noob because you like to trade and flip items?

It really is like I went back in time. The people against a good idea with good intentions still say the most retarded stereotypical BS over and over again.

I disagree with Scrotie but at least he puts thought into his posts other than "hurr durr you just want more lootz and and easier game durrrrr"

No need to get mad. I just stated a fact, the thread was about a SFL with increased drop rates. So everyone who voted yes wants increased drop rates.

I know what you were saying. That people only voted because they want more loot which is such a stupid thing to say. If I wanted more loot I would want to stay where I am and flip items. Thats where the loot is, not playing in a league where trading is disabled and I only get what drops or I craft myself.

The thread never said do you want more loot? It said do you want a self found league. Two completely different things.