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" keyarchan wrote: " Temper wrote: Seriously though,30 to 40 levels of wearing mostly the same gear is,even for me,asking a bit much in an ARPG. There is no way you haven't found upgrades to pretty much all your gear in 30-40 lvls, it's just pure bs. Except, ofc, you for some reason don't identify rares and don't use alchs/chaos. If people would stop exaggerating then maybe GGG would listen to you but by now they're probably getting tired of you. See my previous post for exaggeration.	Posted by Temper#7820 on Dec 6, 2013, 10:59:32 PM Quote this Post
" Shagsbeard wrote: It's fine playing self found... but as soon as you make a single trade, no matter how insignificant it might seem,... your game is ruined. You can never go back once you start trading. This is why people want a SFL. They lack the self control not to cheat. I trade because the game is built for trading. I'm not going to sit around and wait for something interesting to drop to make a build with, that would take forever. Seriously unbelievable that people are getting flack for having interest in a league built for playing self found. Standard Forever Last edited by iamstryker#5952 on Dec 6, 2013, 11:06:55 PM	Posted by iamstryker#5952 on Dec 6, 2013, 11:06:05 PM Quote this Post
" Temper wrote: You guys don't play much solo self found from a clean stash tab do you ? Played mostly this way since closed beta.The results by level 70 don't change by much on any character. Orbs don't drop like candy when you don't party. That gear is pretty much what you can expect for a solo self found/craft at that level (barring the 5 link which was pure luck).You won't have an orb left in your stash and any maps you have will rot. Even the shield can be considred a damn lucky drop. lol indeed. Do you think I should pound on trivial content for another ten levels to luck into one more upgrade ? I made a lot of solo races. I also made a lot of alts (playing hardcore) and in regular leagues I never trade during leveling. Why ? Because you always find or craft upgrades. Always. From level 1 to 30 or from 30 to 60, there is no way you keep "mostly the same gear" as self found. " Orbs don't drop like candy when you don't party. I didn't know that the orbs drop rates were different for parties... Oh wait, in fact you're just wrong : they are not. IGN : @Morgoth	Posted by Morgoth2356#3009 on Dec 6, 2013, 11:06:10 PM Quote this Post
" Morgoth2356 wrote: " Temper wrote: You guys don't play much solo self found from a clean stash tab do you ? Played mostly this way since closed beta.The results by level 70 don't change by much on any character. Orbs don't drop like candy when you don't party. That gear is pretty much what you can expect for a solo self found/craft at that level (barring the 5 link which was pure luck).You won't have an orb left in your stash and any maps you have will rot. Even the shield can be considred a damn lucky drop. lol indeed. Do you think I should pound on trivial content for another ten levels to luck into one more upgrade ? I made a lot of solo races. I also made a lot of alts (playing hardcore) and in regular leagues I never trade during leveling. Why ? Because you always find or craft upgrades. Always. From level 1 to 30 or from 30 to 60, there is no way you keep "mostly the same gear" as self found. " Orbs don't drop like candy when you don't party. I didn't know that the orbs drop rates were different for parties... Oh wait, in fact you're just wrong : they are not. So you traded sometime somewhere and you don't feed your alts with currency or items that may or may not have been derived with help of said trade. You also don't lose any gear in regular leagues when you die.Dieing in hardcore is a net loss. Are your alts in hardcore feeding each other or are they all self found/efficient ? Orbs do drop like candy in party play,the game takes consideration of more players in game.Honestly when I play my non solo self found characters and party,I often comment on how players aren't even picking orbs up. lol Your exaggerating about always upgrading ALWAYS.Chances are at level 30 plus you'll gamble something utterly crap for your character and if you try to enhance a piece already wearing,you'll ruin it. lol ALWAYS indeed http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/544792 http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/665557 Nice shops bros Self found indeed Last edited by Temper#7820 on Dec 6, 2013, 11:42:32 PM	Posted by Temper#7820 on Dec 6, 2013, 11:27:42 PM Quote this Post
Temper no offens but " You play in a style you don't enjoy or have fun... kudos to you.You are officially as big a masochist as me. =p This is false. :) I enjoy my playstyle and i enjoy the game a lot. My point was that trading bores me and i cant be bothered by it. I also don't compare my gears to other players. I know i could have an easier time playing if i traded (like i pointed out, i sometimes do trade, just very little once a month was an average i mentioned) but it does not bother me that i am not having it so easy :). Just an example : I found a legacy soul taker in anarchy, and i absolutely hated the damn thing. Because it basically forced me to go trading ore have it rot in my inventory. So i traded it and had to make a thread for it, wait for bids etc, get false bids, get guys yelling at me cause i wouldn't sell it to them at a cheap price etc. It was a pretty awful experience. Now i have 30+ exalts sitting in my bank on standard i probably wont use any time soon :). Now after i played the game for quite some time, i just have some dedicated traders in my friends list, and if i need something i ask them and cant be bothered if they don't. This game can be a lot of fun, and pretty "medium" difficulty even if u don't trade, and that was the point i was trying to make. Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes	Posted by Boem#2861 on Dec 7, 2013, 12:24:54 AM On Probation Quote this Post
" Boem wrote: Temper no offens but " You play in a style you don't enjoy or have fun... kudos to you.You are officially as big a masochist as me. =p This is false. :) I enjoy my playstyle and i enjoy the game a lot. My point was that trading bores me and i cant be bothered by it. I also don't compare my gears to other players. I know i could have an easier time playing if i traded (like i pointed out, i sometimes do trade, just very little once a month was an average i mentioned) but it does not bother me that i am not having it so easy :). Just an example : I found a legacy soul taker in anarchy, and i absolutely hated the damn thing. Because it basically forced me to go trading ore have it rot in my inventory. So i traded it and had to make a thread for it, wait for bids etc, get false bids, get guys yelling at me cause i wouldn't sell it to them at a cheap price etc. It was a pretty awful experience. Now i have 30+ exalts sitting in my bank on standard i probably wont use any time soon :). Now after i played the game for quite some time, i just have some dedicated traders in my friends list, and if i need something i ask them and cant be bothered if they don't. This game can be a lot of fun, and pretty "medium" difficulty even if u don't trade, and that was the point i was trying to make. My misunderstanding then,apologies. You traded and recieve handouts in good faith...if your trade friends have them. =p; Not hating on you mate,I'm all for people playing how they enjoy. =) Last edited by Temper#7820 on Dec 7, 2013, 12:38:59 AM	Posted by Temper#7820 on Dec 7, 2013, 12:33:14 AM Quote this Post
" Shagsbeard wrote: It's fine playing self found... but as soon as you make a single trade, no matter how insignificant it might seem,... your game is ruined. You can never go back once you start trading. This is why people want a SFL. They lack the self control not to cheat. You mean this is why some people may want a self found league. To comment the way you did is sorta like being a Grimma Wormtongue, trying to distort the whole picture.	Posted by Baskerville#4255 on Dec 7, 2013, 1:14:50 AM Quote this Post
Yes indeedy,I just can't keep my fingers off that tilde key.	Posted by Temper#7820 on Dec 7, 2013, 1:28:42 AM Quote this Post
1. The vast majority of people on the FORUM that actually cared to post in this topic want SLF. And obviously, the majority of the people that are even going to post in this topic are the ones that want SLF. If every player was required to vote, expect VERY DIFFERENT poll results. 2. Just because people want it does not mean it will happen 3. Three of the options in the poll are in favor of SLF. This is a funny poll " They lack the self control not to cheat. Just because in your mind you consider it "cheating" does not mean it is. The game was BUILT around trading. It is DESIGNED around being a multiplayer game with an economy. It's one of the big important parts of the game, and Chris is avidly in favor of it. If you don't like trading, don't. Done. Don't segregate the player base just so you can feel better about yourself. Last edited by Crevox#7597 on Dec 7, 2013, 2:35:47 AM	Posted by Crevox#7597 on Dec 7, 2013, 2:33:01 AM Quote this Post
" Temper wrote: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/544792 http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/665557 Nice shops bros Self found indeed When did I say I played self found? I did, however, start nemesis self found, since I had nothing in my stash and nothing to trade with. I did my first trade around lvl 65-70 I think, since I don't trade much cuz I don't like the hassle and suck at prices. The shop I have is my first ever, just check my comments. I put it up cuz I wanted to be able to buy a Bringer of Rain. Also, everything in my shop is self found, you just need to use a little rarity when you lvl up. Or are you one of those anti-rarity people as well? IGN Hardcore: Muppman IGN Beyond: TheTrueAuraBitch or BlixtarOchDunder	Posted by keyarchan#4979 on Dec 7, 2013, 2:52:43 AM Quote this Post