...::: SFL Poll results and conclusions :::...

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bluefalcon74 wrote:

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RagnarokChu wrote:

At least we have an reasonable person in here that would say >fixing< the actual game itself is better then wasting time trying to make a magical "SFL" league for a part of their gamerbase because they feel entitled to be special.

I can tell you read the last two pages and stopped there. Virtually every SFL proponent has said the same thing.

Spoiler

PS - Using "an" is only needed when the following syllable begins with a sound associated with a vowel. For example:
an apple
an egg
an x-ray (the sound is "eks")

Your going to say all SFL people "said" the same thing based on a thread with less then 100 people in which there are many other people who said SFL league would be cool but they don't want increased drop rates, or they want to trade with their family member/friends or some other thing is ignored too.

This is a biased thread anyway because all I am doing is trying to put logic that your SFL league is extremely poorly thought out and you need to have some major work.

I am not saying I do not support a SFL, I am just merely saying you guys need to stop less like whiny people and start adding some constructive idea and reasoning to >convince< people that don't care or don't support SFL leagues.

All I hear is everyone pointing the finger of a person putting an opposing idea vs yours and everyone gangs up on them saying the SFL is this magical indomitable idea that cannot be improved or has no problem.

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zachatta wrote:

I am guessing SFL is just on the horizon boys, lets just keep throwing temper tantrums in the forums.

What makes less sense. A) People asking for something they want even though they might not get it? or B) people complaining about what those people want even though it would have no affect on them at all?

You people complaining about a request from the community make no sense.

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iamstryker wrote:

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zachatta wrote:

I am guessing SFL is just on the horizon boys, lets just keep throwing temper tantrums in the forums.

What makes less sense. A) People asking for something they want even though they might not get it? or B) people complaining about what those people want even though it would have no affect on them at all?

You people complaining about a request from the community make no sense.

Because GGG has stated repeatedly it isn't apart of......wait for it......THEIR vision.

It is their game, deal with it.

I would not jump to conclusions like OP did with his poll for a simple reason.

There is no evidence that the desires of the 3% of users playing the game and visiting the forum are directly comparable to the rest of the user population. Not because something silly like the size of the sample but possible massive differences in variables between the sampled group and the one this results are applied on (the proclaimed majority).

One has to either make sure that the whole relevant user population is sampled evenly (this means in-game interviews or polls, possibly a huge hassle) or to further provide evidence that the sampled group is indeed, resembling the relevant user group in such a way that it shares the same major features.

I would be really surprised if the small percentage of 50000 forum users are resembled in a true way with this poll, aside further driving this into the realm of madness which is the actual in-game population.


TL;DR: Forum polls still suck major ass.
They are on par with my favorite political surveys.

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zachatta wrote:

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iamstryker wrote:

What makes less sense. A) People asking for something they want even though they might not get it? or B) people complaining about what those people want even though it would have no affect on them at all?

You people complaining about a request from the community make no sense.

Because GGG has stated repeatedly it isn't apart of......wait for it......THEIR vision.

It is their game, deal with it.

Way to skirt the question. So how does a "vocal minority" voicing their opinion to GGG about GGG's vision affect YOU and cause YOU to complain about it? To play devils advocate.

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zachatta wrote:

Because GGG has stated repeatedly it isn't apart of......wait for it......THEIR vision.

It is their game, deal with it.

Neither was looting options, but its here.

Regardless though this is a forum and people can support an idea regardless of what anyone else thinks.

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iamstryker wrote:

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zachatta wrote:

Because GGG has stated repeatedly it isn't apart of......wait for it......THEIR vision.

It is their game, deal with it.

Neither was looting options, but its here.

Regardless though this is a forum and people can support an idea regardless of what anyone else thinks.

Ok, fair enough, have fun bumping this thread or maybe the old until next april.

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Mahesys wrote:

Then comes the uber flawed logic: we want the game to be self found but with all the advantages that trading with other players would grant. Then why the hell you want a SF league if it will be the SAME as a trading league? maybe just to say "yeyeye mhh mhh i dropped everything by my own"??? i can't really see the point here, this logic is complete nonsense to me.

But in same you are playing game where all your gear improvements MUST come from (really clumsy) trading system, you vendor all things you find for peanuts, and you use crafting items as gold, and not for crafting.

And you speak us of logic.

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zachatta wrote:

Ok, fair enough, have fun bumping this thread or maybe the old until next april.

Well, for a lot of us, the forum is pretty much all the fun we have left. So we'll do that, thanks :D

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zachatta wrote:

Ok, fair enough, have fun bumping this thread or maybe the old until next april.

I actually have no interest in bumping this thread. I just get angry at the stupid crap people say against it and feel compelled to post.