...::: SFL Poll results and conclusions :::...

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Mahesys wrote:

can you please tell me how this SFL will be "10X times more hardcore"???

I don't know about 10 times more hardcore but it would definitely be a lot better and more fulfilling to find/craft all of your stuff instead of trading and flipping. It would also be nice to know that everyone you see in self found league is actually playing the game just like you did.

Imagine that..... 5000% (!) increased drop rate.... that's 5000% increased gambling frustration (!). =P


I'm with ya,it's the odds of gambling that need tweaking not the orb drop rate.

But then we'd all be rolling in flawless gear and the economy would blow up and still nobody is happy. Hhaha

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Hyskoa wrote:

This is a very informative post. Too bad GGG doesn't give a flying fuck :)
Something tells me the donations aren't doing as well as they hoped, meaning they have less capital to invest in the servers necessary for supporting a SFL.

lol

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Rozerozz wrote:

If no, you just want more drop rate. Period.

I'd settle for orbs doing what they're supposed to do instead of straight up gambling. I don't need increased drop rates, just throw me a bone every once in awhile and reward me for trying to 6l a bow after the 1000th time. So, yes, if the game was friendlier to self-found players I wouldn't be asking for a new league.

Three points:

1). Demand for a "Self-Found League" is a side-effect of a poor trading interface.

2). The only reason people want SFL is because PoE supports the concept of leagues. In no other game of this genre do I hear of people clamoring for a new mode because they don't like trading.

3). Poe does not have a crafting system - It has a gambling system. The sooner people accept this fact, the happier they will be.

That is all.

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bluefalcon74 wrote:

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Rozerozz wrote:

If no, you just want more drop rate. Period.

I'd settle for orbs doing what they're supposed to do instead of straight up gambling. I don't need increased drop rates, just throw me a bone every once in awhile and reward me for trying to 6l a bow after the 1000th time. So, yes, if the game was friendlier to self-found players I wouldn't be asking for a new league.

Orbs are supposed to be means for gambling.

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Miszou wrote:

Three points:

1). Demand for a "Self-Found League" is a side-effect of a poor trading interface.

2). The only reason people want SFL is because PoE supports the concept of leagues. In no other game of this genre do I hear of people clamoring for a new mode because they don't like trading.

3). Poe does not have a crafting system - It has a gambling system. The sooner people accept this fact, the happier they will be.

That is all.

1) well, for some yes, for some not.
2) I guess you didnt played d3? Same thing happened in d3. Actually d3 and PoE problems are very similar.
3) this is correct, that means PoE needs a crafting system

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1). Demand for a "Self-Found League" is a side-effect of a poor trading interface.

2). The only reason people want SFL is because PoE supports the concept of leagues. In no other game of this genre do I hear of people clamoring for a new mode because they don't like trading.

3). Poe does not have a crafting system - It has a gambling system. The sooner people accept this fact, the happier they will be.

1. No. I don't care how easy it is to trade. To me trading is like that mode in Super Mario Bros. where you can press a button and the game will play for you. Game is too tough? Trade. Dominus handed you your ass? Don't grind, flip some gear and buy your way past him.

2. In no other game of this genre is trade-to-win the core gameplay element.

3. Obviously not. We understand it's gambling, and gambling with the shittiest odds possible. Hence the request to fix the problem.

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Orbs are supposed to be means for gambling.

Someone said they were supposed to be for crafting. Who was it.... oh, that's right, the entire fucking GGG team.

Self Found For Life

No you may not line your trade coffers with my hard earned orbs, I prefer to waste them on crap items.

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iamstryker wrote:

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Xavderion wrote:

There was a guy in that thread who said he wants a 5000%(!) increased drop rate. Nuff said.

And so by your logic EVERYONE who wants a self found league wants that exact same thing? At least respond to the specific person instead of everyone who is interested in a SFL. Stereotyping isn't cool.

The responses against self found league are literally the exact same fallacious crap people said against looting options.

Just read this thread. People want the benefits of trading without having to actually trade. They want increased drop rates and easier crafting so they can have the same loot as someone who is trading. They want a much easier game. Something tells me GGG won't make their game THAT easy.