Zombie´s suck since latest Patch - 135% resists... Endgame Summoner screwed. Help us Pls

is summoner still super powerful (solo) ? hell yea
is raise zombies extremely meh right now unless you build around MI ? yes, yes, it is.

Ill be experimenting with incorporating dominating blow in my +2 helm for now, might remove the zombies altogether. the ~30s duration for d.b. is far more than what zombies last nowadays in lvl 70+ maps, especially with ele dmg
so im lvl 90 full summoner

played all kind of maps after patch 69-77.

and the only hard things, are the crema boss and piety. (both impossible to solo as summoner imho)

but this was also a pain for summoners before the patch.

so for me its no big difference the rest was easy as always^^
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MagicJohns0n wrote:
so im lvl 90 full summoner

played all kind of maps after patch 69-77.

and the only hard things, are the crema boss and piety. (both impossible to solo as summoner imho)

but this was also a pain for summoners before the patch.

so for me its no big difference the rest was easy as always^^
like Ive said, summoners dont depend on RZ a lot...so we're still very powerful and you're right...those hard hitting ele bosses one or two shot spectres and then we're done.

..but RZ as a skill is pretty weak now, no way of denying it. the only great utility now is resummoning them between packs so they take the initial heat off...and then they die. or use BOTH LL/lgoh and minion resists supports
Last edited by grepman#2451 on Jun 27, 2013, 8:44:34 PM
3 level 63 dock voidbearers destroy 7 Level 20 Q20 Zombies with 12kHP in under 2-3 seconds.

The 7 zombies just dissapear from the MAP when the voidbearers start to cast

Everyone can test that.....

Go to Merciless Docks, summon your 7+ Zombies and attack some voidbearers


Enjoy watching your Zombies Instantly dissapear without even get a hit off....


That will happen every time your Minions fight enemies with Elemental damage.......



Minions might work until Cruel but after that the Zombies and Skeleton Minions in PoE are a horrible unfunny joke since last patch .....

What GGG delivers here is not fun its pure frustration, i am no masochist like some others here. i want to have fun and dont want to summon a new Zombie every second


GGG that was a really bad move, the Minions were ok with 75% for pure summoners without own damage skills
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LeninGHOLA wrote:
Actually, I find my summoner getting more powerful as I work through the mid 80's. Even with this "nerf", which is just changing values back to what they were.


yea sure , your Summoner gets stronger the more they nerf the class ... yes sure....

who paid you for saying that ?

How can your summoner become stronger with less HP/ES and horrible minions ?


If the values where at -60% before in merciless than that was wrong and far to weak......


Who can have fun with minions that die in 1-3 seconds to 30 level lower enemies ??? i dont...
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tuccos wrote:
3 level 63 dock voidbearers destroy 7 Level 20 Q20 Zombies with 12kHP in under 2-3 seconds.

The 7 zombies just dissapear from the MAP when the voidbearers start to cast

Everyone can test that.....

Go to Merciless Docks, summon your 7+ Zombies and attack some voidbearers


Enjoy watching your Zombies Instantly dissapear without even get a hit off....


That will happen every time your Minions fight enemies with Elemental damage.......



Minions might work until Cruel but after that the Zombies and Skeleton Minions in PoE are a horrible unfunny joke since last patch .....

What GGG delivers here is not fun its pure frustration, i am no masochist like some others here. i want to have fun and dont want to summon a new Zombie every second


GGG that was a really bad move, the Minions were ok with 75% for pure summoners without own damage skills

I can't believe you're still going on about this.

QQ, my minions have no resists (or negative resists) and I refuse to use things to give them resists. Why do they get melted by ele damage? Buff pl0x.

FFS dude, you're either a terrible troll, or the most ignorant PoE player ever.
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Herpy_Derpleson wrote:
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tuccos wrote:
3 level 63 dock voidbearers destroy 7 Level 20 Q20 Zombies with 12kHP in under 2-3 seconds.

The 7 zombies just dissapear from the MAP when the voidbearers start to cast

Everyone can test that.....

Go to Merciless Docks, summon your 7+ Zombies and attack some voidbearers


Enjoy watching your Zombies Instantly dissapear without even get a hit off....


That will happen every time your Minions fight enemies with Elemental damage.......



Minions might work until Cruel but after that the Zombies and Skeleton Minions in PoE are a horrible unfunny joke since last patch .....

What GGG delivers here is not fun its pure frustration, i am no masochist like some others here. i want to have fun and dont want to summon a new Zombie every second


GGG that was a really bad move, the Minions were ok with 75% for pure summoners without own damage skills

I can't believe you're still going on about this.

QQ, my minions have no resists (or negative resists) and I refuse to use things to give them resists. Why do they get melted by ele damage? Buff pl0x.

FFS dude, you're either a terrible troll, or the most ignorant PoE player ever.


no i am not a damn troll. i am a player that had a lot fun to level a witch to level 82, almost 83 and now is pissed of because my build, based on minions is fucked up.

stop calling a honest player that is dissapointed a fukking troll

you guys are the ones that are trolling my honest opinion with your useless comments.

the most of you have no clue about summoners at higher levels. the most here havent even seen how fast 7 zombies and another 12 skeletons just dissapear from the screen when it comes to elemental damage enemies.


i think not even one GGG game designer has tested a L66 - 71+ MAP with these shit minions since they nerfed the resists down to nothing.


fukk it i am quitting this game for now, maybe i come back in a few month but for now its game over

Have fun getting nerfed every week until all your stupid builds are useless


ACT4 with even more debuffs to Resists / runspeed etc etc will be even worse for the majority of players..






Summoners would have to be nerfed for real to be anywhere near useless. Thats the problem and why people are confused at your rage. Summoners still work.
Standard Forever
bla bla bla

game is deleted.... goodbye


maybe again in a few month but then the game will be unplayable in Merciles and ACT 4-.... if they continue like that
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tuccos wrote:
Spoiler
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Herpy_Derpleson wrote:
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tuccos wrote:
3 level 63 dock voidbearers destroy 7 Level 20 Q20 Zombies with 12kHP in under 2-3 seconds.

The 7 zombies just dissapear from the MAP when the voidbearers start to cast

Everyone can test that.....

Go to Merciless Docks, summon your 7+ Zombies and attack some voidbearers


Enjoy watching your Zombies Instantly dissapear without even get a hit off....


That will happen every time your Minions fight enemies with Elemental damage.......



Minions might work until Cruel but after that the Zombies and Skeleton Minions in PoE are a horrible unfunny joke since last patch .....

What GGG delivers here is not fun its pure frustration, i am no masochist like some others here. i want to have fun and dont want to summon a new Zombie every second


GGG that was a really bad move, the Minions were ok with 75% for pure summoners without own damage skills
"
Herpy_Derpleson wrote:

I can't believe you're still going on about this.

QQ, my minions have no resists (or negative resists) and I refuse to use things to give them resists. Why do they get melted by ele damage? Buff pl0x.

FFS dude, you're either a terrible troll, or the most ignorant PoE player ever.


no i am not a damn troll. i am a player that had a lot fun to level a witch to level 82, almost 83 and now is pissed of because my build, based on minions is fucked up.

stop calling a honest player that is dissapointed a fukking troll

you guys are the ones that are trolling my honest opinion with your useless comments.

the most of you have no clue about summoners at higher levels. the most here havent even seen how fast 7 zombies and another 12 skeletons just dissapear from the screen when it comes to elemental damage enemies.


i think not even one GGG game designer has tested a L66 - 71+ MAP with these shit minions since they nerfed the resists down to nothing.


fukk it i am quitting this game for now, maybe i come back in a few month but for now its game over

Have fun getting nerfed every week until all your stupid builds are useless


ACT4 with even more debuffs to Resists / runspeed etc etc will be even worse for the majority of players..

You're right. I haven't played a summoner since the "nerf", but that's not relevant. Here's why...

1) A bug fix is not a nerf, your zombies where never supposed to have those free resistances in the first place.

2) I played a summoner (up to running maps) before the bug existed.

People will spend 10-15 passives just to get keystones like US and RT for survival. Gearing for minion survival is easy and cheap by comparison.

If you aren't a troll, you are a terrible player, and stubborn as a mule.

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