Cannot Fire Additional Projectiles.
Cannot Fork or Chain.
You must aim, you must know EXACTLY where your arrow is going, you must see without doubt. Firing arrows that are out of your aim and out of your sight is not lioneye's style. Spraying bunches of arrows randomly, having them fork and chain in random directions? I doubt this is what lioneye was using his bow for.
No attack speed nerf, due to Slay without hesitation.
That sounds like an interesting idea. I would say it would stay valuable, but yeah
fixing evasion and fixing dexterity would be very nice.
but i still don't see how nerfing lioneye's would affect people who don't use lioneye's.
And a good lioneye's is a needle in a hay stack. Most players won't ever own one.
How would nerfing something that only a small minority of players have change your gameplay as a ranger? If Lioneye's glare were a very common item in circulation, then, yes this would be a problem. As it is, I don't see most bow users using a Lioneye's at all. Do you?
I'm gonna be the devils advocate here. You say that Path of exile will be more like Diablo 3 if it continues to be "taken hostage" by these GG items.
Well, I will simply state the opposite extreme: Path of Exile will be more like Demon's Souls if any GG item can get nerfed by a few complaints and whims. (and, Path of Exile is already relatively harsh amongst all the current action rpg's).
It took me 3 months to find my Lion's Eye playing 4-6 hours a day. I would say I invested at least 300 hours. That means chancing 20-30 a day, and playing in zones where a lion's eye could drop (maps, and later lunaris temple after 0.10 patch). I finally got one in lunaris temple level 2, while running through there to get to 3 on my way to a piety farm kill.
If there was a major drawback added to it I'd be devastated/incensed and probably stop playing a bow-based character, because while it did and does provide a huge DPS, it's also hard as hell to get and looking at spork I think it's unfair to say it's overpowered relative to other options.
I play entirely self-found (except for a few quality gems I bought) so it would hurt me even more. I got SO tempted to buy one for 4-5 ex in trade chat, but never did. I am happy that I didn't.
I love this bow of beauty.
+1
Again, if GGG pulls the trigger on Lioneye's, I strongly advise GGG to only affect future Lioneye's. Keep the existing ones as they are.
GGG, you have bigger fish to fry. Alongside the OP's and sidtherat's arguments, if Lioneye's unfairly empowers the lucky few bow users to pack IIR and IIQ giving them an advantage in end-game farming, then WHY IS DUAL SPORK STILL MILES BETTER THAN A LIONEYES LIGHTNING ARROW?
i still think lioneye's has enough balance as is.
and to Chris and GGG team reading thread, I think any future changes to Lioneye's Glare should not change the current Lioneye's Glares.
These are end-game items that took a lot of effort to acquire.
For it to be so easily nerfed would seriously compromise my confidence in aiming for highly sought after items, as well as the integrity of the end-game GG gears in general.
This is a very weak reason. Items such as Lioneyes are arguably much more important than the effort people went towards in getting them. Such items often have a tremendous negative impact on the economy
Please elaborate on the "tremendous negative impact on the economy."
How do items such as Lioneye's hurt the economy again?
We can all agree that what hurts the economy are botters. But, a highly sought-after empowering item? Are you serious? If you were to suddenly roll a perfect Lioneye's, would you not use it with excitement?
Also, regarding my no extra projectiles + no chaining or forking idea, before somebody says "you just dont want lioneye users to be good anymore becuase you don't have one"
I'm using multiple projectiles on both of my bow skills. I'm not biased against people using these supports.
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As it is, I don't see most bow users using a Lioneye's at all. Do you?
this is rather manipulative question..
how many players can afford one? esp when all cheap ones are immediately bough by RMT'ers?
proper question: how many bow users would decide to NOT use LG if presented a choice. my answer: ZERO. Even Kaom's has a drawback..
In my humble opinion, I don't think you should keep bringing RMT into this thread. The original issue is the gameplay mechanics of an in-game item. The OP and our original discussion had nothing to do with pricing of Lioneye's. RMT problems pervade all of Path of Exile, and are not specific to Lioneye's Glare.
"How many bow users would decide to not use LG if presented a choice..."
I will be rude and answer your question with another question :P
How many bow users have the choice to use LG to begin with?
Try using a high-end Lioneye's with a high-end rare quiver... you will come out with the same dps as a rare tri-elemental bow with the same quiver.
The only time a high-end Lioneye's will surpass the rare tri-elemental thicket is with Blackgleam. And, that, my friend, is the balance.
