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" Sodomee wrote: I'm pretty sure the Divine/Blessed orb only applies to items that are buffed. If GGG were to deem an item too overpowered and nerfed it, I'm pretty sure it would affect all of the items not just the new ones or ones that were blessed/divined. What is the point of nerfing Lioneye's or Kaom's if there are still going to be 100 of them(or more) that aren't affected by the nerf? If anything it would make the "legacy" versions of the uniques overpriced and this wouldn't be exactly smart for the economy. If you use a divine on a +2 silverbranch it will make it a +1 and will never go back to +2 no matter how many divines you throw at it. If they change the values, nerf or buff, the value is changed. With the retroactive changes I'm pretty sure Chris has said they can, but they rather not. With stuff like demigods I don't think they have a problem with leaving collector item type uniques around with the understanding standard/HC are dumping grounds that races/semi leagues are their driving force. Finished 17th in Rampage - Peaked at 11th Finished 18th in Torment/Bloodline 1mo Race - peaked at 9th Null's Inclination Build 2.1.0 - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1559063 Summon Skeleton 1.3 - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1219856	Posted by Moosifer on Jun 30, 2013, 12:34:48 AM Alpha Member Quote this Post
I also believe the default leagues are dumping grounds. The only issue I have with this comes down to PvP.	Posted by SL4Y3R on Jun 30, 2013, 1:46:01 AM Banned Quote this Post
" Moosifer wrote: " Sodomee wrote: I'm pretty sure the Divine/Blessed orb only applies to items that are buffed. If GGG were to deem an item too overpowered and nerfed it, I'm pretty sure it would affect all of the items not just the new ones or ones that were blessed/divined. What is the point of nerfing Lioneye's or Kaom's if there are still going to be 100 of them(or more) that aren't affected by the nerf? If anything it would make the "legacy" versions of the uniques overpriced and this wouldn't be exactly smart for the economy. If you use a divine on a +2 silverbranch it will make it a +1 and will never go back to +2 no matter how many divines you throw at it. If they change the values, nerf or buff, the value is changed. With the retroactive changes I'm pretty sure Chris has said they can, but they rather not. With stuff like demigods I don't think they have a problem with leaving collector item type uniques around with the understanding standard/HC are dumping grounds that races/semi leagues are their driving force. Well silverbranch isn't exactly an item that is overpowered lol. That nerf really made no sense to me. If Kaoms was nerfed to 700 life and everyone still kept their 1000 life kaoms it would be a bit ridiculous. IGN: ThrobbinRobin Last edited by Sodomee on Jun 30, 2013, 1:50:23 AM	Posted by Sodomee on Jun 30, 2013, 1:49:42 AM Quote this Post
" Sodomee wrote: Well silverbranch isn't exactly an item that is overpowered lol. That nerf really made no sense to me. If Kaoms was nerfed to 700 life and everyone still kept their 1000 life kaoms it would be a bit ridiculous. Silverbranch was extremely OP in races Basically anyone that got that item won a race, this was the main impetus behind the nerf	Posted by deteego on Jun 30, 2013, 6:53:21 AM Quote this Post
" deteego wrote: " Sodomee wrote: Well silverbranch isn't exactly an item that is overpowered lol. That nerf really made no sense to me. If Kaoms was nerfed to 700 life and everyone still kept their 1000 life kaoms it would be a bit ridiculous. Silverbranch was extremely OP in races Basically anyone that got that item won a race, this was the main impetus behind the nerf I guess I didn't know that because I don't participate in the races. This would explain why the nerf didn't affect the old bows though. If the nerf was specifically for races, there would be no need to nerf the old bows. IGN: ThrobbinRobin	Posted by Sodomee on Jun 30, 2013, 8:00:01 AM Quote this Post
" Sodomee wrote: This would explain why the nerf didn't affect the old bows though. If the nerf was specifically for races, there would be no need to nerf the old bows. No that is false It was specifically not changed due to technical reasons. GGG stated this explicitely	Posted by deteego on Jun 30, 2013, 8:00:53 AM Quote this Post
" deteego wrote: " Sodomee wrote: This would explain why the nerf didn't affect the old bows though. If the nerf was specifically for races, there would be no need to nerf the old bows. No that is false It was specifically not changed due to technical reasons. GGG stated this explicitely Well I'm pretty sure that if Kaom's or Lioneye's got nerfed significantly, GGG would get around those technical reasons. IGN: ThrobbinRobin	Posted by Sodomee on Jun 30, 2013, 8:26:29 AM Quote this Post
" Sodomee wrote: Well I'm pretty sure that if Kaom's or Lioneye's got nerfed significantly, GGG would get around those technical reasons. No, what I'm saying is if they did end up nerfing some uniques people go on about being OP, what they'll do is make it so new ones are nerfed, leaving the old ones untouched. Yes, someone would be dumb to use a divine on a 1k life kaoms to get the lower value but it could still happen to them. I don't think they have much of a problem with leaving the OP kaoms in there because it won't be a widespread problem and won't affect new leagues. Finished 17th in Rampage - Peaked at 11th Finished 18th in Torment/Bloodline 1mo Race - peaked at 9th Null's Inclination Build 2.1.0 - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1559063 Summon Skeleton 1.3 - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1219856	Posted by Moosifer on Jun 30, 2013, 1:52:00 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post
I see no problem with allowing the old versions to keep their stats. Just like in D2 when you had 1.08/legacy items in SCNL. Those items will eventually be in the dump leagues. ॐ "Metal Gear!?!?!?" ॐ Onslaught: FixinToDie + Awnslot	Posted by Fluffhead on Jun 30, 2013, 2:03:24 PM Quote this Post
I'm actually curious as to how long the server would have to be down for to make a sweeping change. Last edited by Xendran on Jun 30, 2013, 8:14:12 PM	Posted by Xendran on Jun 30, 2013, 7:31:51 PM Quote this Post