{3.2.0} Spectral Gods: [Life Based Spectre/Golem Hybrid Summoner | Clear Speed | End Game Bossing]

for shock stacks whats better Blackguard Mage or Galvanized ribbon?

Just curious, for this type of aggressive tanky summoner build that is already going for armour, would it be an advantage to get/use Death's Oath (http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Death%27s_Oath)? There are no real downsides to it (unless you are culling) and it adds more degen to the build (even though almost everything has some amount of chaos resist in late game and maps :p).

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for shock stacks whats better Blackguard Mage or Galvanized ribbon?

Blackguard Mages seem to do more damage.

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Just curious, for this type of aggressive tanky summoner build that is already going for armour, would it be an advantage to get/use Death's Oath (http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Death%27s_Oath)? There are no real downsides to it (unless you are culling) and it adds more degen to the build (even though almost everything has some amount of chaos resist in late game and maps :p).

What I look for in a chest piece is as much life as possible, maybe some resistances, and as much es as possible so you can have a lot of mana to work with when u EB.

You need armor but there are diminishing returns after a certain point. Once you achieve 50% which is very easy to do with grace + IR its gets increasingly harder to increase your physical resistance via armor. This is where other forms of mitigation comes in mainly arctic armour, mana shield (30% flat more all damage types), and if you really needed it a granite flask(buffed with witch flask nodes), endurance charges.

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Shocked ground...great. So much love for summoners, as if burning ground wasn't enough.

well burning ground does nothing to minions, for those shock stacks it depends how long they last. Just another affix to avoid like blood magic if its a serious one.

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/650913/page/1

So new update on how degen damage works

what I got from the post is increased fire damage(fire pen quality ) and concentrated effect now buffs BM's damage.

Am going to need more details from the actual patch notes to know for sure.

edit: Potentially increased minion damage as well

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mattc3303 wrote:

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/650913/page/1

So new update on how degen damage works

what I got from the post is increased fire damage(fire pen quality ) and concentrated effect now buffs BM's damage.

Am going to need more details from the actual patch notes to know for sure.

edit: Potentially increased minion damage as well

I don't think this DoT patch was thought out very well.........

This will bring stupid amounts of damage increase.........

Imagine a 6L BM using......

Raise Spectre > Minion Damage > Minon Life > Trap > Remote Mine > Concentrated Effect

Trap, Remote Mine, and Concentrated effect will apply 151% MORE damage.

Summon BMs using Chober, Sidhebreath, Sunblast (55% increased life, 55% increased damage).

Pick up any minion damage nodes and/or trap & mine combo nodes that you can.

Now throw in Triple Curse + Daydus + EE.

What isn't going to instantly melt?

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Moose65 wrote:

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mattc3303 wrote:

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/650913/page/1

So new update on how degen damage works

what I got from the post is increased fire damage(fire pen quality ) and concentrated effect now buffs BM's damage.

Am going to need more details from the actual patch notes to know for sure.

edit: Potentially increased minion damage as well

I don't think this DoT patch was thought out very well.........

This will bring stupid amounts of damage increase.........

Imagine a 6L BM using......

Raise Spectre > Minion Damage > Minon Life > Trap > Remote Mine > Concentrated Effect

Trap, Remote Mine, and Concentrated effect will apply 151% MORE damage.

Summon BMs using Chober, Sidhebreath, Sunblast (55% increased life, 55% increased damage).

Pick up any minion damage nodes and/or trap & mine combo nodes that you can.

Now throw in Triple Curse + Daydus + EE.

What isn't going to instantly melt?

Goodbye (lol edit) map piety/dominus you were once strong, lol

I guess its time to rethink our builds again, getting those minion damage nodes might be good now. I should start leveling my concentrated effect gem.

You will have to wait a day and see. This and many other combos (especially with burning from EA or discharge) have people theorycrafting retardedly op builds but nobody really knows if they will be rebalanced.

In the case of BM's maybe they don't scale insanely high, but still end up noticeable higher than before.

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Splift wrote:

You will have to wait a day and see. This and many other combos (especially with burning from EA or discharge) have people theorycrafting retardedly op builds but nobody really knows if they will be rebalanced.

In the case of BM's maybe they don't scale insanely high, but still end up noticeable higher than before.

If its allowed to scale at all, it will be ridiculous. You apparently haven't seen what BMs with EE + Triple Curse + Dyadus already do. Allowing damage increase/multipliers will be beyond stupid :/

They might allow the scaling, but then just nerf them like they did with the degen bear. If they do - degen bear + BM might become a better option, if the scaling will do any good to bear's aura.