{3.2.0} Spectral Gods: [Life Based Spectre/Golem Hybrid Summoner | Clear Speed | End Game Bossing]

"

mattc3303 wrote:

"

dopync wrote:

The boss setup (3 green 3 blue) have the power (is viable) to kill guardians? (whithout using t16+ optimal links)

Because the 3g 3b setup needs an average cost of 115 chromatic. So if I would like to kill guardians just once in a while as a poor guy I am, can get expensive always switch colors.


I am talking about be viable and not optimal.

Very thanks

A 5 Blue 1 Green setup is more than enough for guardian and shaper.

Raise Spectre + Controlled Destruction + Minion Damage + Elemental Focus + Spell Echo + GMP

Or

4B 2G

Raise Spectre + Hypothermia(faster projectiles swap) + Minion Damage + Elemental Focus + Spell Echo + GMP

Amazing! Thank you for creating that awesome build. I hope use this build all next leagues :)

You're very welcome.

Hey, can I ask you something?

Why are you suggesting Death's Oath and Zahndethus' Cassock for the guardian? Both don't seem to be able to outperform a decent rare, and I can't see anything like an aura, plus the wiki says he can't use skills. What am I missing here?

EDIT:
Ok, nvm about Death;s Oath. Its skill activates on equip. What about Zahndethus' Cassock? Is it because of the consecrated ground on block?

"

KatKira wrote:

Hey, can I ask you something?

Why are you suggesting Death's Oath and Zahndethus' Cassock for the guardian? Both don't seem to be able to outperform a decent rare, and I can't see anything like an aura, plus the wiki says he can't use skills. What am I missing here?

EDIT:
Ok, nvm about Death;s Oath. Its skill activates on equip. What about Zahndethus' Cassock? Is it because of the consecrated ground on block?

Yes. It is just a matter of how sure you want to be that you don't have to rebuy all the Guardian gear again because he dies :D With Cassock you will never have to do that. With Death's Oath it might happen sometimes. I am going with Cassock, the aura from Death's Oath does close to 0 damage if you look at the big picture.

Thank you for the quick reply. I am having fun with this build. I thought that the Heralds were so strong, there is no way Solar Guards can be much stronger.


How wrong I was lol.

"

KatKira wrote:

Thank you for the quick reply. I am having fun with this build. I thought that the Heralds were so strong, there is no way Solar Guards can be much stronger.


How wrong I was lol.

And next week the changes will hit with the new patch and we will have Frost Sentinels. Even stronger for clearing :D

Well I guess could have them now, but not worth the trouble of getting them until they are permanent.

"

Mecielle wrote:

"

KatKira wrote:

Thank you for the quick reply. I am having fun with this build. I thought that the Heralds were so strong, there is no way Solar Guards can be much stronger.


How wrong I was lol.

And next week the changes will hit with the new patch and we will have Frost Sentinels. Even stronger for clearing :D

Well I guess could have them now, but not worth the trouble of getting them until they are permanent.

Ok I just tried them and I think I am in love.

Matt, what would you suggest if I want to make some sort of hybrid between your and Natt's builds, with the idea of using NA and having TF and VC shields, as well as BBBBGR links so that I can interchange them for Solar guards + VC for mapping and Tukohama's Vanguards + TF for bosses? What in your opinion would be the best way to go about defences in this case?

//edit: I'm also hugely considering Frost Sentinels now. It just seems that they don't have any red gem they can use at all; so I either will have to lose Chance to Ignite on TVs for some blue gem, or use some useless red gem for Frosties...

"

LaplaceNoMa wrote:

Matt, what would you suggest if I want to make some sort of hybrid between your and Natt's builds, with the idea of using NA and having TF and VC shields, as well as BBBBGR links so that I can interchange them for Solar guards + VC for mapping and Tukohama's Vanguards + TF for bosses? What in your opinion would be the best way to go about defences in this case?

//edit: I'm also hugely considering Frost Sentinels now. It just seems that they don't have any red gem they can use at all; so I either will have to lose Chance to Ignite on TVs for some blue gem, or use some useless red gem for Frosties...

I don't get all this obsession about the colours, not just you, there were some others a few pages ago.

As getting high level spectres will always take a little bit of time you will not change your type of spectre that often. It's not as if you will change them after every map :D I mean I am doing a few hours of T15 Beachheads with Solar Guards and when I want to do something else I change to Fire-Eaters for a good amount of Guardians and Shaper runs.

And changing Vis Mortis from 4b2g to 4b1g1r and back takes what? 10 chromatics if you have bad luck? That is less than a chaos. I just don't get it why you would have to "lose Chance to Ignite on TVs for some blue gem, or use some useless red gem for Frosties...". Just change the colors!



I have another question: Has anybody else been testing with 2 Unending Hunger jewels? I feel like using two instead of just one is a huge clear speed buff. Really huge. We would of course lose the life and minion damage from the jewel slot, but it is easily worth it. The cast speed we get from double the amount of Soul Eater stacks is insane. At least right now it feels like it makes my T15 Beachhead runs with Solar Guards much faster. Will try to get some hard numbers tomorrow.


Also, what overlay/tool are you using to get the buff icon above your lifebar?

I have 2 unending jewels now on me and the difference is noticeable. My spectres are now always buffed af.

Something weird happened though. I switched to Cannibal Fire-eaters to try them, and now my Vaal Haste barely gets any souls. I killed a whole map, and I didn"t even have Vaal Haste for the boss. This was not the case with Frost Sentinels and Solar Guards. Obviously after Kitava's second affliction.

Any ideas?


It seems it's because of the Unending Hunger Jewels. Since the Cannibals are very low range, the kill are always close to them, so they get soul eater all the time, and these kills don't give souls.