{3.2.0} Spectral Gods: [Life Based Spectre/Golem Hybrid Summoner | Clear Speed | End Game Bossing]

Is this build viable for HC pendarius?

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Camaron wrote:

Is this build viable for HC pendarius?

Using the belt isn't for people who want to face tank HC. You still need some decent micro skills to play this on HC. Like opening the inventory and clicking the belt and tapping your seething flask button to heal your self. Or whirling blades to dodge and then your sulphur flask for high regen.

If you truly want to be safe i would not use the belt and use a regular flask setup. A belt with life, es, res, and chaos res will really boost the tankyness. Then spam bone offering for max block. So basically the same build without using the belt is extremely tanky.

Ok a few things.

With out the poison DPSing zombies this build is now just another Necro build.

The belt is un-needed to keep zombies alive with a few node changes also Mistress is un-needed if you go CI as there is no way to get the block + life combo to work with ES.

+2 minion helm = Zombies - fort ( or life leech) - min dam - minion life

drop 1 curse keep ball lighting to curse and your all set.

the whirling blade with Fort is a great addition to a necro build, although if you go pure minion your better off with a different weapon.

also elemental focus should not affect the damage out put for poison dealing mobs as poison damage is not considered an element in the eyes of GGG.

Hey,

i got a great Vis Mortys.
Would you use a strong 6 link Life/ES or this Vis Mortis (Btw it took me only 19 Fusing to get a 6 Link, never bin that lucky) ?



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You can still go poison zombie in a 4L.

Zombie + Min Dmg + MinLife + Poison.

I will give that a go tonight. I was trying different kinds of setups as the soul weaver 100% life really opens up a lot of great spectre options.

The belt is un-needed and mistress is un-needed. But where is the fun in that =P. The belt gives you insane utility, defense, and offense. And Mistress is just op for the max block.

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@Anexis91

The Pros of the Vis is another spectre and way more damage with unholy might.

If you want to go super tanky pick up a hybrid es/life chest. That should shoot you up to 4-5k life and 5-7k es.

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Build Update:

I am going to give poison zombies another go now that my gem levels are higher and I did some through spectre testing.

Zombie + Minion Dmg + Minion Life/Empower + Poison in a +2helm or Vertex.

Really enjoying Knitted Horrors now in a 6L. Should synergies with poison zombies.
Knitted Horrors + GMP + MinDmg + Slower Proj + Poison + Rapid Decay

Use Vulnerability curse.

Sorry for the frequent build update/changes the more I play the more overpowered combinations I seem to find lol.

I'm just trying the Knitted Horrors right now, they are super strong, but you can't get them with Desecrate right?
They melt bosses in no time.

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I'm just trying the Knitted Horrors right now, they are super strong, but you can't get them with Desecrate right?
They melt bosses in no time.

Yeah I am thinking about scaling a degen style summoner.

The reason why the knitted horrors do so much damage is that the bleed double dips with minion damage stats and projectile dmg stats. What i mean is minion dmg and projectiles boosts the initial hit which boosts the bleed and poison dmg, but then minion damage and projectiles will also boost the degen after. So you double the effectiveness of your stats.

Here is the knitted horror details:
http://poedb.tw/us/mon.php?n=Knitted+Horror

As you can see they deal 10% of their dmg as bleed, but that increased by 50% if monsters are moving which they pretty much always are. If you knock stationary bosses around with lion's roar i think that also counts as movement.

not sure why you need minion life on your raise zombie setup.

are they your damage or are they your tanks? because the only thing the extra life really gives you is a slightly bigger buffer against 1 shot mechanics. but anything that can out damage their tank will chew through them regardless of their hp pool.

why not then instead take advantage of the extra life they would get from leech by using a melee physical gem?

minion leech is not half bad and easily out strips the regen you would get from the 2500 -3000 or so extra hp.

heck if you go horrors why not go blood lust zombies. that thing is a HUGE multi for the initial hit.



There are a few major downsides to horrors
1. cannot be desecrated
2. they only use their ranged attack at near point blank range (meaning they can often get tied up in melee)
3. the base zone you get them in pre maps is only 67
4. the poison doesnt scale off of the bleed. (negligible importance)
5. need a large amount of green gem sockets


minions melt bosses period. that is the one undeniable strength of them. they have a slow wind up time. but they have a massive damage base and can take advantage of a wide variety of scalers. So long as you use a bunch pretty much any minion setup is capable of thorough boss murder

Ok I am pretty satisfied with this last and final update, (hopefully lol). I spent a lot of time theory crafting last night and I really enjoyed playing around with the Knitted Horrors.

I now have everything synergising with degen perfectly. Every damage boost I use in the build will double dip in some way. I have updated the guide and finally the QA section to reflect these changes.

For my own character I hope to pick up a Vertex and fit that in the gear I need to adjust some items around to cap some resistances. The Vertex will solve our chaos res problem while allowing our zombies to be spammed summoned with 50% less mana cost. It also gives very high es and evasion to boot. The +1 to gems to socketed gems with an empower gem is equivalent to a +2 minion helm with empower. The +1 to gems will boost empower level by 1.

Now the Vis Mortis will be better then ever. 30% of physical damage gained as extra chaos damage. This helps our zombies and Knitted horrors. By scaling the initial hit and poison even more. Also 20% min damage to boost our degen too. The extra es will be very helpful to increase the tankyness of your character more. The only problem is that we need 4 greens on a pure es chest. That is not going to be easy.

@Saltychipmunk

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not sure why you need minion life on your raise zombie setup.

I hope to get a empower gem eventually. The minion life is just a substitute. With minion life gem they were able to tank courtyard trio and necropolis merveil ice twisters.

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are they your damage or are they your tanks? because the only thing the extra life really gives you is a slightly bigger buffer against 1 shot mechanics. but anything that can out damage their tank will chew through them regardless of their hp pool.

as i mentioned i hope to replace that with empower. Borrowing a term for league of legends they are my bruisers =P.

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why not then instead take advantage of the extra life they would get from leech by using a melee physical gem?

I get leach through Atziri's promise, and burst heal with seething. I will try your suggestion thou.

Zombie + MPD/blood lust + poison + Min Dmg , Then i drop EE for that minion life leech node.

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heck if you go horrors why not go blood lust zombies. that thing is a HUGE multi for the initial hit.

This is something to think about, I kinda want empower for tankier zombies. Althou the vertex will solve my zombie resummoning issues.

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1. cannot be desecrated
2. they only use their ranged attack at near point blank range (meaning they can often get tied up in melee)
3. the base zone you get them in pre maps is only 67
4. the poison doesnt scale off of the bleed. (negligible importance)
5. need a large amount of green gem sockets

1. Yes, that sucks pretty bad
2. do they? they seem to fire at range fine. If i position they correctly I can nail 2-3 packs and mobs start dying offscreen
3. I find them in arid lake or desert
4. the poison will scale off the initial physical hit, I am not sure if pierce's more projectile dmg will be better then poison.
5. yes, that also sucks pretty fucking bad