{3.2.0} Spectral Gods: [Life Based Spectre/Golem Hybrid Summoner | Clear Speed | End Game Bossing]

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testinglk wrote:

there's nothing debatable about having a swarm of hasted blue frogs suddenly swarm leap slamming you en masse and kiting your whole army cuz you walked into a 200 damage arctic breathe and now you're running for your life and away from your army, while crit damage rhoas from the next screen body bump through your army and charge straight at you instead, and then you get stunlocked and die a horrible death as soon as your 2s of phys immune drops

there's nothing can or cannot about end charges. ec will cast first if you put it first in the link, and 2nd if you put it after. 0.25s of immune does nothing when you just pulled the entire screen into mauling you and is basically suicide, so having ec first would already be the best case scenario



drawing the whole screen aggro to yourself is retarded. and this is coming from a summoner who plays a summoner build designed to facetank and share aggro with my army................

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HeisenbergBlue wrote:

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testinglk wrote:

there's nothing debatable about having a swarm of hasted blue frogs suddenly swarm leap slamming you en masse and kiting your whole army cuz you walked into a 200 damage arctic breathe and now you're running for your life and away from your army, while crit damage rhoas from the next screen body bump through your army and charge straight at you instead, and then you get stunlocked and die a horrible death as soon as your 2s of phys immune drops

there's nothing can or cannot about end charges. ec will cast first if you put it first in the link, and 2nd if you put it after. 0.25s of immune does nothing when you just pulled the entire screen into mauling you and is basically suicide, so having ec first would already be the best case scenario



drawing the whole screen aggro to yourself is retarded. and this is coming from a summoner who plays a summoner build designed to facetank and share aggro with my army................

I was giving helpful advice and you busted out the R-word on me...so I figured I'd play with knives too. It also seems you took me up on my debate. Firstly you must have some sand stuck up in there if you're scared of some frogs hitting you. Second I figure you should be more down with EC since it appears you like taunting. Third I need this when things are up in my grill hitting me anyways(charge/wormhole), I'm taunting things that are already hitting me..or about to hit me...who cares. I'll take 2sec over .43s immune which is the other option. It's all dead in under 2secs anyways with good gear. You play how you want guy I really don't care, I stand by my advice.

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testinglk wrote:

...grow skin? why are you posting your opinion if you take disagreement so personally

frogs are terrifying. I don't know what version of poe you're playing, but even white sceptre ones do well over 100 hp through a level 19 aa and mom. a pack of them can easily take off over 1k. a haste pack in maps with damage mods is just as terrifying as any devourer


I never even suggested to go naked IC. I think cwdt on summoner is just plain weak. my suggestion would've been to just get real mitigation. either IR+deter if going full aura reservation, or AA+cloak if stacking mana. defense isn't like damage, you can't just lazily string some gems together and expect to have any real survivability. invest in it

being forced to stand there for 2s and just praying your army kills everything in time is, for obvious reasons, not reliable. if you have good gear, you can afford a cloak or coil for defense. you're also vastly underestimating how massive EC radius is, or that summoners won't generally have much aggro to begin with. you're mostly gonna have a handful on you, after which you can just casually walk behind their zombies anyways. in no situation would you ever want the whole screen to suddenly start focusing you down when you're likely the squishiest body in the group


and let's not even get into fractured mobs. IC isn't gonna save you when you eat 20 bodyblocked in discharges to the face cuz a discharger flickered in and died at bad time

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testinglk wrote:

I never even suggested to go naked IC. I think cwdt on summoner is just plain weak. my suggestion would've been to just get real mitigation. either IR+deter if going full aura reservation, or AA+cloak if stacking mana. defense isn't like damage, you can't just lazily string some gems together and expect to have any real survivability. invest in it

being forced to stand there for 2s and just praying your army kills everything in time is, for obvious reasons, not reliable. if you have good gear, you can afford a cloak or coil for defense. you're also vastly underestimating how massive EC radius is, or that summoners won't generally have much aggro to begin with. you're mostly gonna have a handful on you, after which you can just casually walk behind their zombies anyways. in no situation would you ever want the whole screen to suddenly start focusing you down when you're likely the squishiest body in the group

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sebaper wrote:

Only 100 of damage? im normally be hitting by 1.5k, in 2 hit blow my ES and is time to run.

Im using cwdt+EC+MoltenShell+decoy totem replaced now by increased duration.
But im thinking that the physical damage in not the problem, generally im not in melee range, what are killing me is the big aoe damage (i have max elem. res.)

I dont notice that EC taunt the mobs, unless they are very close to me.


i have all the aura nodes, but i cant use more than 2 60% aura + clarity + reduce mana, what im doing wrong?

Sorry for my english

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HeisenbergBlue wrote:

I simply chose to defend my opinion...is that allowed at least?...apparently I cannot post if I take disagreement personally.

P.S. I think all of your suggestions are retarded! I hope we're done guy, but if you want some more keep replying I'll give ya some more.

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Amiag wrote:

EC does not stick monsters on you. It would be instadeath in groups if it worked like that. As long as you are not the closest thing to them when you use EC they will keep attacking your minions.

You obviously never even tried it

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HeisenbergBlue wrote:

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testinglk wrote:

being butthurt and resorting to ad hominem is a defense mechanism. it's not the same as defending your opinion. but yes, do continue

I am guilty of using a logical fallacy. Straw man...all along you think I REALLY care what you think about about my opinion? I hate trolls who go around thinking they are always right and calling things retarded. Sometimes I choose to troll them back for fun...welcome to the club. It was literally never about you disagreeing with me...but your tone and word choice.

P.S. What's the name of that stupid old movie where they have like the dance battles? More requested and given. I really am done with you at this point...I'd like to say it was fun.