{3.2.0} Spectral Gods: [Life Based Spectre/Golem Hybrid Summoner | Clear Speed | End Game Bossing]

it's not that they nerfed SM, it's that they DID NOT fix the underlying problem that make it so useful.

Typical, annoying and typically annoying.

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mattc3303 wrote:

The only nerf noticeable is probably the
"Smoke Mine no longer teleports your minions with you when detonated."

which I have no idea why they would do that? It was one of those mechanics that gave summoners proper utility. In Diablo 2 you were able to teleport your minions with you so u can bypass their shitty AI. I swear GGG has been directly nerfing this build for the past 3-5 patches lol...

1. I really do feel like complaining about the smoke mine thou. I really don't understand why they got rid of a utility that made summoners more fun and playable....................

I share your concerns but I think the main reason why they nerfed smoke mine was so we can't put minions on top of bosses like lvl 72 torture chamber where you want to get right in his face.

Didn't most of us just teleport with lightning warp or jump spam with leap slam to boss and use smoke mine to immediately surround the boss? Now we can't do that. It's a good change imo.

The only thing i don't like is that now there is no way to bring stuck minions to our location. Maps like lvl 73 cells tend to be a pain with minions getting stuck everywhere.

2. The nerf to evangelists was needed. I am surprised they didn't remove the bubble entirely.
I used increased duration gem before this patch and will continue to use it after patch anyway.
The bubble is nice vs projectiles.

All in all the nerfs were needed imo.

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mattc3303 wrote:

Its important to get your zombie HP up so that means levels. I remember when I hit the 19 or 20 range I could pretty much do any map mod. After that the only zombie killers would be the high spell damage map bosses which is solved with NA + saffels.

I just ran a level 67 map the other day with trivial mods and I was losing a zombie every time a pack of voidbears showed up, WITH BONE OFFERING UP. My zombies are about 7k life, so clearly their resists must be quite low.

LOL.

I'm in the 19 or 20 range, and there's no way in hell I'm alching a map :-)

edit: I just realized. BO doesn't buff resistance and spell block probably doesn't work well for voidbear attack does it ? So I have a resistance problem.

I think the nerf was mainly to limit the summoner atziri farmers. Smoke mine + evangelist was too powerful in that fight, and makes it so that you don't need to re-summon mid fight, which makes it so that you can snapshot your minions.

I've been trying out voidbearer from wharf map. They work really really well. It's like dual flame totem but better.

EDIT: Finally spec'd into this last night:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMAVysHY3NTwFRr2xB0eQN9GA5cCPQxiOyKRX5tGcHzoqN_xhzcJ6mTJ1pttAy_l9xXJDxGceq6yT0elKdcgwmwdzyO8h6sP0lRb55XycpKKPrDOuvugsebtbiTeqrT-yLqGYqnCJrgE2zo1vsJna6PRtkLRZ0GSc3q9toabNDQKphqrAW1Go8Zhaasm6HPZfqAjb_UIySqiED311XGUUfdqDbpkDPMvBZvqrjGouNq-tIQl4Vgqn8wcRcvRASqxI19S3hk5025OkJV1oCkWpGofQ==

Working really really well, lightning coil is fan-fucking-tastic. Don't have an alpha's howl yet so I don't use purity of lightning, and consequently don't take inner force and aura effectiveness nodes. I feel so tanky with this set up it's awesome

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I share your concerns but I think the main reason why they nerfed smoke mine was so we can't put minions on top of bosses like lvl 72 torture chamber where you want to get right in his face.

Yeah teleporting minions to bosses was a good way to kill them are you saying we should just avoid those bosses entirely or accept that we should lose minions every time we attempt those bosses? Its like using leap slam on a melee character to close the distance.

Btw that wasn't the reason why they nerfed smoke mine. All the summoner nerfs so far is pretty much from what the people at the top of the ladders are doing. CoD was noticed by the majority of the player base because some streamer was using it to get to level 100. People streamed smoke mine + evangelist combo to fight Atiziri. It was nerfed this patch as well.

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I just ran a level 67 map the other day with trivial mods and I was losing a zombie every time a pack of voidbears showed up, WITH BONE OFFERING UP. My zombies are about 7k life, so clearly their resists must be quite low.

Are you capping their fire resist? There is no way a 7k zombie would die in a 67 map xD...

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mattc3303 wrote:

Are you capping their fire resist? There is no way a 7k zombie would die in a 67 map xD...

idk. My RZ is level 19.

I do have the +16% elemental resistance node in the tree.

It does seem to me that running PoF/PoC/PoL is much more effective than PoE, and I think that's probably my main source of trouble.

Unfortunately I missed the discussions about minion armor and stats, so I don't know how to check what their resists are.

Thanks.

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plasticeyes wrote:

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mattc3303 wrote:

Are you capping their fire resist? There is no way a 7k zombie would die in a 67 map xD...

idk. My RZ is level 19.

I do have the +16% elemental resistance node in the tree.

It does seem to me that running PoF/PoC/PoL is much more effective than PoE, and I think that's probably my main source of trouble.

Unfortunately I missed the discussions about minion armor and stats, so I don't know how to check what their resists are.

Thanks.

Are you running any purity auras? Your zombies get the effects of your auras if they are near you.

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KimchiGirlx3 wrote:

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plasticeyes wrote:

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mattc3303 wrote:

Are you capping their fire resist? There is no way a 7k zombie would die in a 67 map xD...

idk. My RZ is level 19.

I do have the +16% elemental resistance node in the tree.

It does seem to me that running PoF/PoC/PoL is much more effective than PoE, and I think that's probably my main source of trouble.

Unfortunately I missed the discussions about minion armor and stats, so I don't know how to check what their resists are.

Thanks.

Are you running any purity auras? Your zombies get the effects of your auras if they are near you.

purity of elements. as I was saying, I think running the individual purity auras is much more effective and that's what I should go back too and try again.

i suppose an easy way to test would be to run docks and see the difference in the damage the zombies take against voidbears.

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Arc and Vaal Arc have had their damage increased by 60%. Arc and Vaal Arc can now no longer chain back to the same target immediately, but must now bounce one more time. Arc now increases in chain counts as the gem increases in level.

I wonder if that means Blackguards are now buffed?

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mattc3303 wrote:

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Arc and Vaal Arc have had their damage increased by 60%. Arc and Vaal Arc can now no longer chain back to the same target immediately, but must now bounce one more time. Arc now increases in chain counts as the gem increases in level.

I wonder if that means Blackguards are now buffed?

The rumor from another thread on this subject said not so much, but there was no consensus.

My assumption would be that they _are_ going to be harder, so I was surprised to read that.

Unfortunately these sort of inadvertent buffs/nerfs happen way too often. Easy for them to patch, so we shouldn't have to wait too long for the rebalance.

Don't sell Fairgrave's Tricorne just yet.