Item Allocation Specifics

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nynyny wrote:

Which simply is false. You can avoid challenges, but you dont have to. You choose to not risk your earned exp, thats completely different from HC.

You play safe in HC because you would lose weeks of progress and most importantly a shitton of currency. Farming your quality gems and gear again can take you weeks, maybe even months. You dont have to worry about that in SC since an item you bought is permanent, it will never vanish, you will never lose it no matter what you do. In SC you lose a day, maybe a few of them, but not even delevel. That is a huge difference to what you actually lose on HC.

The two are completely different from each other.

I think you missed my point.

I could argue one doesn't lose anything more in HC, the character is simply moved to default.
One doesn't lose items, they are still there. What's lost is the entitlement to remain in that league. But, I won't, I accept that even by choice, the penalty in HC is worse than in default. For the simple reason, again although by choice, one wants to remain in HC league.


The point, though, is that at a certain lvl, it becomes irrelevant that there is a difference. The actions required are the same. Avoid challenge, overgear, spec a certain way.

Know what I'm saying?
Let's try a RL analogy, although they rarely work.

Default low-mid lvl, take on those bad guys and you may end up with a bloody nose.

HC low-mid lvl, take on those bad guys and you may end up with a bloody nose and marooned on a desert island.

Default high lvl, take on those bad guys and you may end up in intensive care with a leg missing, collapsed lungs and a brain haemorrhage.

HC high lvl, take on those bad guys and you may end up in intensive care with a leg missing, collapsed lungs and a brain haemorrhage and marooned on a desert island.


See what I mean?

Pls suspend disbelief for being in a hospital while also marooned :/

While i personally don´t have anything against ffa loot, i think many players will enjoy the new loot allocation. As always good job GGG! =)

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*Valuable items are the ones that currently get allocated to players - Rare items, Unique items, Currency, Gems and Maps. We've also added items with four, five or six linked sockets to the valuable items list. Base types of the level of your world area or higher are also allocated. This only applies to level 60+ world areas.

6 socketed (no matter the links) should be included since they vendor for 7 jewelers and 1 jewelers is included.

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nynyny wrote:

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ShogunGunshow wrote:

But you see, it's not about competition. It's not about a lack of hardcoreness. It's that now they're going to have a lot more trouble ninjaing loot. That's why they're upset about these options.

Let alone that FFA is as far from being competitive as it can get.

Problem with your picture: Ranged players are many times more tanky than frontliners. Just compare Lighting Arrow Kaom's user vs any cleaver, who do you think has the highest survivability?

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cronus wrote:

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nynyny wrote:

Theres a reason why people like you get immediately kicked from any group.

your elitist points are only based on the shortage of maps. especially in higher levels.

you are argumenting from your player point of view. i'm a step further and want the game more balanced for a majority of players. giving low level players a chance to get maps out of higher level maps theyre helping to finish adds to it as they can provide more quality maps to later runs and so stay in the group. and get not kicked.

So you want people getting rewarded for doing nothing, excellent.

It has nothing to do with elitism, its simple math.

You as a leecher provide your damage to clear the map, lets say thats worth 2
The creator provides damage and a map to clear which did cost him money, thats pretty much 2+1

You provide less and want the exact some payout? On what grounds? All I hear is that its hard to get a map pool started, which simply isnt true, especially not on SC. You can easily but a bunch of 70+ maps on HC. Sure it will cost you quite a bit of currency, but if you dont want to invest that amount of money you can still buy 68 maps for cheap and grind your way up tp 70+++ ones.

You have no valid to justify what youre asking for. You provide less and want the same, but thats simply not how the world works my friend.

YES.
Thank you.

I'm sure some people like cutthroat. I am absolutely not one of those people.

This is the first change for quite some time I really feel like clapping my hands!
(and no... NOT a sarcastic clapping!)

This will probably be the first time encouraging me to play in a party.

Nice thing for a change after the line of prior adjustments.

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nynyny wrote:

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cronus wrote:

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nynyny wrote:

Theres a reason why people like you get immediately kicked from any group.

your elitist points are only based on the shortage of maps. especially in higher levels.

you are argumenting from your player point of view. i'm a step further and want the game more balanced for a majority of players. giving low level players a chance to get maps out of higher level maps theyre helping to finish adds to it as they can provide more quality maps to later runs and so stay in the group. and get not kicked.

So you want people getting rewarded for doing nothing, excellent.

It has nothing to do with elitism, its simple math.

You as a leecher provide your damage to clear the map, lets say thats worth 2
The creator provides damage and a map to clear which did cost him money, thats pretty much 2+1

You provide less and want the exact some payout? On what grounds? All I hear is that its hard to get a map pool started, which simply isnt true, especially not on SC. You can easily but a bunch of 70+ maps on HC. Sure it will cost you quite a bit of currency, but if you dont want to invest that amount of money you can still buy 68 maps for cheap and grind your way up tp 70+++ ones.

You have no valid to justify what youre asking for. You provide less and want the same, but thats simply not how the world works my friend.

According to your analysis, it is ok that blue and yellow maps do not automatically go to mapmaker.

What you are saying is that leechers do have value and it is justifiable that the their value is appriciated by giving them a chance to get blue/yellow maps.

On average, the mapmakers will gain the most wealth per map if all white maps go to them, like it should be since they invested the most wealth into the maps.

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mazul wrote:

Problem with your picture: Ranged players are many times more tanky than frontliners. Just compare Lighting Arrow Kaom's user vs any cleaver, who do you think has the highest survivability?

FP is pretty much tanking in melee range, same goes for a lot of LS, CI Cyclone, Ele cleave builds. You can easily tank as LA as well as long as youre not cursed with Vulnurability.

Dual totem and all other CI builds that dont rely on leech are less tanky than any health/armor based build could ever be. It would be impossible for these people to ever get an item because they would be in a severe disadvantage towards [insert non CI wihtout leech build]. Thats not competitive, its the exact opposite.

The game would pretty much force you to not play pure ranged anymore because you would never get a single item.

What a coincidence that they are about to buff melee in the exact same patch, isnt it?