Why POE2 is dying

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Nyon#6673 wrote:
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As i said have you even palyed a caster? YOu need to stand still and cast 4 spells at once, you cannot hit and run like a merc or ranger.

merc is underpowered but you can just use dodge roll as long as you are not zdps and the fact that your amror sucks doesn't even matter. Stormweaver would get one shot all the time when casting mana tempest if the es pool would be half as much, because there is no option to hit and run.


Now your just trying to muddy the discussion by changing the subject to something irrelevant. First off i play a caster, secondly caster gameplay vs melee gameplay vs whatever is irrelevant, thirdly are you seriously suggesting that casters should inherently have stronger defenses then a melee class?

Casters can use life/armor just like every1 else, they just all use es because its 4 times as good.


ok whatever dude, muddening the discussion sure...and you surely play a caster and actively want to get nerfed, yeah right buddy suuuuure


Yes some people want the game to be overall balanced and dont just talk nonsense to prevent themself from being nerfed, crazy I know.

I want to have more options to try different builds and item combos, not be forced to play es or feel like a monkey for playing something thats 4 times weaker

"buhu playing caster is so hard so i need 4 times more defenses then a melee class"
Wake up
Last edited by Nyon#6673 on Dec 26, 2024, 10:45:52 AM
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Nyon#6673 wrote:


Yes some people want the game to be overall balanced and dont just talk nonsense to prevent themself from being nerfed, crazy I know.

I want to have more options to try different builds and item combos, not be forced to play es or feel like a monkey for playing something thats 4 times weaker

"buhu playing caster is so hard so i need 4 times more defenses then a melee class"
Wake up


nah, you're the type of guy that just watches yt vids and streams and repeats what the content creator says, you don't need more options cause you don't play much yourself anyway.
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Nyon#6673 wrote:


Yes some people want the game to be overall balanced and dont just talk nonsense to prevent themself from being nerfed, crazy I know.

I want to have more options to try different builds and item combos, not be forced to play es or feel like a monkey for playing something thats 4 times weaker

"buhu playing caster is so hard so i need 4 times more defenses then a melee class"
Wake up


nah, you're the type of guy that just watches yt vids and streams and repeats what the content creator says, you don't need more options cause you don't play much yourself anyway.


Im sorry but are you actually arguing against the fact that es is better then life/armor by multitudes? Or are you just trolling?

If your being serious then it would be nice to see some form of an argument, examples or facts. Not just shovelling nonsense.

Theres been given several examples both here, and in videos made by people whos played the game for hundreds of hours that currently es is somewhere between 3 to 4 times as effective defense as armor/life.

And your stance is that es is fine.
Maybe you should elaborate with some factual information on why you think its ok for es to be 4 times stronger then life/armor?

But you wont because youve alredt revealed yourself with your comment.
You cant imagine someone else playing es talking about es needing a nerf, because you cant do that yourself. You abuse overpowered es so you will just shovel nonsense in a helpless attempt to keep it from being nerfed.

I guess coming from the guy who thinks casters need a defense advantage over melee we shouldnt be surprised
Last edited by Nyon#6673 on Dec 26, 2024, 11:00:00 AM
damn right ES is fine. It gives you a huge cushion against the bs the game throws at you, which is needed. Armor is not fine, Armor needs to be buffed big time. And it's not the fault of palyers that play ES builds(which is not abuse btw) that GGG decided to jsut remove all % life nodes from the tree, lmao
It's Christmas and New Year. Nobody of us wants to work, so let GGG have holiday, too. The Early Access is running in his first days and some players take a break from POE 2, because there is anything that makes no fun for them. I am one of them, because of the weak loot. But I have great hope, that POE 2 will be a much better game in the next year.

There is nothing dying, POE is taking his first breaths...
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damn right ES is fine. It gives you a huge cushion against the bs the game throws at you, which is needed. Armor is not fine, Armor needs to be buffed big time. And it's not the fault of palyers that play ES builds(which is not abuse btw) that GGG decided to jsut remove all % life nodes from the tree, lmao


So its not being abused, its just used by all the top builds, and people are running around with 15k energy shield being unkillable and face tanking boss one shot mechanics... no abuse happening here. You surely know alot about this topic.

So in your expert opinion they should just buff armor and life by x4. That would be great, we could have 16k life then and nothing in the game would be able to kill us, that sounds challenging and fun.
+1 to OP
I stopped playing because my characters are bricked and can't get past white mobs in the campaign when I tried off meta builds. Having only a few of the myriad skills actually be viable isn't fun and the cost of re-speccing characters is unattainable for working people, with kids, in school, etc.. . I can't spend weeks farming every time I want to try a new build.

At the minimum I want a game to respect my time.

All build changes should be free in early access anyway. Nothing is getting tested except Spark, grenades, lightning damage, and minions. Off meta skills aren't being used at all.
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Some death penalty is absolutely necessary for even the most dopamine-fried brains out there. So tired of hearing this death penalty whining. Zero understanding of human nature despite you all probably being like 35+ years old.


The Campaign has no Death Penalties.
It's loads of fun. The best part of the game so far.

So your assertion is shown to be not true by the game itself.
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Nyon#6673 wrote:

So its not being abused, its just used by all the top builds, and people are running around with 15k energy shield being unkillable and face tanking boss one shot mechanics... no abuse happening here. You surely know alot about this topic.


Are you seriously suggesting that folks who use a mechanic that has been proven to work are "abusing" the game? In what game world is that ever remotely true?

Picking up on stronger or weaker things is essential to your success in this game. Using those stronger options is NOT abuse....it is the absolute most basic part of building a character.

Whether the options are imbalanced, and to what degree, is a DEVELOPER problem...not a player problem.
Starting anew....with PoE 2
Last edited by cowmoo275#3095 on Dec 26, 2024, 12:00:43 PM

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