Why POE2 is dying

"

inspecktadeck#3108 wrote:

40k players right now down from half a mill a few months ago. Add in the fact that this game is insanely botted probably 10-15k actual players. Marval Rivals which came out around the same time is just shy of 300k players.

You cope addicts are wild. The game is crashing and burning at record pace and GGG either cant or wont fix it. Its actually impressive how hard this game is failing.

Imagine making statements when fully clueless...

Nobody cares about the player count at the moment. The 24-hour peak was 73k.
Furthermore, comparing a game and genre (like "Rivals") that has not such fluctuations is weird. ARPGs, especially "Path of Exile", aren't games ppl play and play with no end to it.
People play it, do whatever they want in the "league," and then go on to play something else until a new league is released. That's completely normal and expected.

Most players "finish" the game in the first month. In the second month, another big chunk is done with the "league" until month 3, when only a few "core" gamers are left.
With a new "league/update" the ppl come back and it repeats - it's a circle.

You need proof? We have data about this from entire years and GGG talked about it in interviews.
Here you have the graphs:
https://poedb.tw/us/League#ConcurrentPlayers

Your nonsensical "fearmongering" is annoying af. At least base it on something besides "tRuSt Me BrO" and your feelings.

"

JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

Nobody cares about the player count at the moment.

Yeah I agree. Its sad how fast the game died. Thats what happens when the devs are lazy and bad people. Sucks

"

inspecktadeck#3108 wrote:

"

JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

Nobody cares about the player count at the moment.

Yeah I agree. Its sad how fast the game died. Thats what happens when the devs are lazy and bad people. Sucks

Again. The game did not die. Your lies don't become truth and/or reality the more you repeat them. The facts literally prove you wrong.

"

inspecktadeck#3108 wrote:

"

Clumpinator#4756 wrote:

Wtf are you smoking? Have you looked at the Steam Charts recently? They are still regularly double PoE 1's numbers, not including base launcher numbers and other platforms. This game is still EVERYWHERE in the news, and all over Youtube and other social media. PoE 2 is the shit.

PoE 2 isn't dying in any way shape or form. That sounds like something a kid says when they are mad about something in a game that they love. That's why you're here complaining on the forum right? Because it's flooded with tens of thousands of people who love and are actively invested in the game. AND, the people who post here are only a TINY percentage of people who actively play.

Quite literally the opposite of what you are claiming is true. It has INSANE player retention for the state that it is in and having had no major content updates yet, and being in a very rough early access state. This game is going places, and the player count will SKYROCKET every time new content gets added, just like it does in new PoE 1 leagues. Players drop off slightly over time and then come back for new content/leagues. This is a good thing, and sought after behavior from GGG. They have a very loyal and invested playerbase.

40k players right now down from half a mill a few months ago. Add in the fact that this game is insanely botted probably 10-15k actual players. Marval Rivals which came out around the same time is just shy of 300k players.

You cope addicts are wild. The game is crashing and burning at record pace and GGG either cant or wont fix it. Its actually impressive how hard this game is failing.

What are you talking about? It still has 70-80k players on Steam alone for half the day. PoE 1 is also full of bots, as are most major online titles. GGG has never had FPS or MOBA numbers. This is far above average numbers for GGG for how long EA league has been going. Not to mention that the game has less than half of the content right now that it will upon official release. This game also currently has far superior numbers to PoE 1's regular league start numbers. To say the game is dying is the real cope. The game's player count will skyrocket next major update. It will decline slightly a month or two in as usual, and then skyrocket again with the update after that. This will continue for years to come. This is objective observable reality, and there are no statistics to prove otherwise. It's always been like this.

Time will prove me right, and you complainers know it, because you are invested enough to argue about it on a majorly active forum. A drop from half a mil was expected. The game was marketed extremely well, and most players are casual and will not be retained like dedicated players. It is the same for most games. PoE is a hardcore ARGP with a hardcore dedicated playerbase, just like PoE 1. Everyone knew the dropoff would happen. But the amount of remaining invested players is exponential for a game like this, where actual brain power is required to play.

PoE 2 introduced the genre in a refreshing and exciting debut for a lot of people unfamiliar with the genre, and you are realistically only going to retain a certain percentage of those new players. PoE 2 not only has the majority of the dedicated PoE 1 playerbase on its side, but it has an entirely new generation of players as well. If you've played PoE 1 since near launch like I have, you would be able to recognize the absolutely insane amount of retention GGG has right now. It's a major success. But you can't see, because you are just another NPC who thinks big number = good, and drop off = game dead.

That's not ever how gaming has worked. It's a braindead take from someone who is angry about a game they enjoy. If you thought this game was really dead, you wouldn't be arguing with everyone on this thread now would you? You know I'm right, but now you're too invested to admit that you don't know what you are talking about.

"

Clumpinator#4756 wrote:

refreshing and exciting

No need to resort to outrageous lies friend. There is nothing refreshing about a by the numbers asset flip of a 10+ year old game in poe1.

Please be honest when using the forums.

"

inspecktadeck#3108 wrote:

"

Clumpinator#4756 wrote:

refreshing and exciting

No need to resort to outrageous lies friend. There is nothing refreshing about a by the numbers asset flip of a 10+ year old game in poe1.

Please be honest when using the forums.

Nothing I said is a lie. Prove to me where I'm wrong. Also, there is no asset flip. That is an actual lie you just made. What assets have been reused?

I'm a 3D modeler and digital designer bro. The vast majority of the assets from PoE 1 are nowhere to be seen in PoE 2. And the seldom few that have been ported over have either been re-meshed with new topology, UVs and texture mapping, or integrated to function with GGG's new engine lighting system. Everything about this game is either new or a solid work in progress of an improvement upon the original game.

"

Clumpinator#4756 wrote:

"

inspecktadeck#3108 wrote:

"

Clumpinator#4756 wrote:

refreshing and exciting

No need to resort to outrageous lies friend. There is nothing refreshing about a by the numbers asset flip of a 10+ year old game in poe1.

Please be honest when using the forums.

Nothing I said is a lie. Prove to me where I'm wrong. Also, there is no asset flip. That is an actual lie you just made. What assets have been reused?

I'm a 3D modeler and digital designer bro. The vast majority of the assets from PoE 1 are nowhere to be seen in PoE 2. And the seldom few that have been ported over have either been re-meshed with new topology, UVs and texture mapping, or integrated to function with GGG's new engine lighting system. Everything about this game is either new or a solid work in progress of an improvement upon the original game.

That's a common lie by ppl who try to slander GGG.

They will point out some assets in PoE1 (if they are even actually aware of any) that you can find in PoE2, but don't realise - these assets are FROM PoE2 put into PoE1 and everybody knew that GGG used for a while now new stuff from PoE2 and put it in their old game to safe some resources.

"

JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

That's a common lie by ppl who try to slander GGG.

They will point out some assets in PoE1 (if they are even actually aware of any) that you can find in PoE2, but don't realise - these assets are FROM PoE2 put into PoE1 and everybody knew that GGG used for a while now new stuff from PoE2 and put it in their old game to safe some resources.

Thank you, you are completely correct! You're someone who knows their stuff and the history of PoE. GGG has been porting assets used in PoE 2 development over to PoE 1 leagues, MTX, etc, for a while now. The vast majority of the original PoE 1 assets are completely visually outdated and would not be suitable to port over to PoE 2, and would require far more work to remodel than it would to just create new models from scratch. The latter being what GGG is obviously doing.

Players can be split into two categories.

1. Casual and fun

2. Hardcore and godly

First category, plays a game like in the 90s. A limited amount of time, constant progression and fun.

Second category are MMOs generation, when playing consumes all their free time.

PoE2 clearly leans towards the second category. All-in players get rewarded with crazy builds at the cost of consequential amount of time.


The average hours to graduate from a Master is 350 hours. How many hours have you played between PoE1 and PoE2?

there is no end game in this game, i cant even get past act 2 because bosses are just one shotting me at the very start of each fight. im dying around 20 to 40x each boss encounter. literally unplayable. game is garbage.