Absolutely disapointed -- This game is hard, and not in a fun way.

Yo, try the swamp boss (questline) in act 3 with undergeared monk. its literally impossible as a casual player to beat this game. in fact its not "that" hard but the gear problem is a huge hit on multiple characters. you dont even get enough gold to even gamble your gear. i know its EA but it becomes a drag. and when a game becomes a drag it sucks. i still wont give up but my buddy with warrior killed like first try but he farmed gear like crazy.

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Lucky089#6618 wrote:

I have tried the act 1 boss for three hours and thought it was just a lack of skill or that I had to practice.

Then I changed my build, and suddenly, I consistently made it much much further into the fight.

Its an ARPG, for years u have been playing other peoples characters. The skill demand is multi dimensional, you have to be able to press buttons, but also read numbers and do critical thinking. If you cant do the second part, you never had any "skill" to begin with. You were button smashing another persons character. Kinda like toddler would do if I handed over the controller.

With that said, builds are gonna pop left and right so you can progress. By playing someone elses character, but progress regardless.

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Lucky089#6618 wrote:

There are so many elitists here who feel great that they supposedly have more skill or knowledge in PoE.

On the other side, all newcomers have luck or not with their drops and builds and either make it easily or get crushed a hundred times.

It's literally the opposite of elitism to:
- offer help with builds
- explain what you can do to obtain materials
- how you can improve your gear easier

Skill and knowledge isn't something people are just born with.
I went into the game 4 days ago, same as you, and it was new to me, same as you.
But unlike you complaining online, I engaged with the mechanics, improved my gear, figured out what works and doesn't work.

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Lucky089#6618 wrote:

I have tried the act 1 boss for three hours and thought it was just a lack of skill or that I had to practice.

I genuinely don't believe you.

Have to say I agree with the OP.

Let me say this: The game is gorgeous. It looks amazing, the play is smooth and the systems seem fine. IMO It's far too hard. IN Standard or regular league the game should be similar to POE 1 in terms of difficulty and gameplay. I'm no streamer or pro player I'm just a casual who dumps a ton of money into MTX's and at this kind of difficulty i won't be spending dollar 1 on anything.

IF they want a souls level hard mode then make it a setting like POE1. Hardcore is for hardcore players. We shouldn't be forced into hardcore in standard or trade league. And can we talk about this dodge roll gaming world that we are in now? I can see wanting to have it in the game but when it becomes the defining mechanic of the game it loses it's uniqueness and becomes tiresome. As someone who is likely not the most skilled player it feels like the game is simply out of reach.

Historically speaking POE 1 was infinitely replayable for me and I was all in for spending my money on skins and skill effects and all of the cool cosmetics but at the base level the game was always replayable and enjoyable. In the current state it is neither for me and it's also not fun when all you do is roll around for no loot and get rekt by any large mob or boss.

I know tuning needs to happen but as is this game's difficulty level will alienate a huge number of players but maybe that's the idea?

Game presentation A+
Game Systems A+
Skill Effects A+
Loot drops - D
Actual gameplay - no letter grade, just "Not Fun"

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Delythyx#5706 wrote:

If you cant do the second part, you never had any "skill" to begin with. You were button smashing another persons character. Kinda like toddler would do if I handed over the controller.

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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:

Skill and knowledge isn't something people are just born with.

Yes, I exactly meant you both when I wrote about the elitists.

I play games for fun. Some of them even in competitive modes.
I don't play games to feel better than others on internet forums :-)

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Lucky089#6618 wrote:

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Delythyx#5706 wrote:

If you cant do the second part, you never had any "skill" to begin with. You were button smashing another persons character. Kinda like toddler would do if I handed over the controller.

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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:

Skill and knowledge isn't something people are just born with.

Yes, I exactly meant you both when I wrote about the elitists.

I am convinced you didn't even read the sentence you just quoted, and just decided to shit on it instead.
What a waste of effort.

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MehGuyver#0025 wrote:

Have to say I agree with the OP.

Let me say this: The game is gorgeous. It looks amazing, the play is smooth and the systems seem fine. IMO It's far too hard. IN Standard or regular league the game should be similar to POE 1 in terms of difficulty and gameplay. I'm no streamer or pro player I'm just a casual who dumps a ton of money into MTX's and at this kind of difficulty i won't be spending dollar 1 on anything.

IF they want a souls level hard mode then make it a setting like POE1. Hardcore is for hardcore players. We shouldn't be forced into hardcore in standard or trade league. And can we talk about this dodge roll gaming world that we are in now? I can see wanting to have it in the game but when it becomes the defining mechanic of the game it loses it's uniqueness and becomes tiresome. As someone who is likely not the most skilled player it feels like the game is simply out of reach.

Historically speaking POE 1 was infinitely replayable for me and I was all in for spending my money on skins and skill effects and all of the cool cosmetics but at the base level the game was always replayable and enjoyable. In the current state it is neither for me and it's also not fun when all you do is roll around for no loot and get rekt by any large mob or boss.

Game presentation A+
Game Systems A+
Skill Effects A+
Loot drops - D
Actual gameplay - no letter grade, just "Not Fun"

The loot drops are fine. You aren't supposed to survive on drops alone.
The crafting system exists, as well as disenchanting to get more orbs for crafting.

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As someone who is likely not the most skilled player it feels like the game is simply out of reach.

Yep!

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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:

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MehGuyver#0025 wrote:

Have to say I agree with the OP.

Let me say this: The game is gorgeous. It looks amazing, the play is smooth and the systems seem fine. IMO It's far too hard. IN Standard or regular league the game should be similar to POE 1 in terms of difficulty and gameplay. I'm no streamer or pro player I'm just a casual who dumps a ton of money into MTX's and at this kind of difficulty i won't be spending dollar 1 on anything.

IF they want a souls level hard mode then make it a setting like POE1. Hardcore is for hardcore players. We shouldn't be forced into hardcore in standard or trade league. And can we talk about this dodge roll gaming world that we are in now? I can see wanting to have it in the game but when it becomes the defining mechanic of the game it loses it's uniqueness and becomes tiresome. As someone who is likely not the most skilled player it feels like the game is simply out of reach.

Historically speaking POE 1 was infinitely replayable for me and I was all in for spending my money on skins and skill effects and all of the cool cosmetics but at the base level the game was always replayable and enjoyable. In the current state it is neither for me and it's also not fun when all you do is roll around for no loot and get rekt by any large mob or boss.

Game presentation A+
Game Systems A+
Skill Effects A+
Loot drops - D
Actual gameplay - no letter grade, just "Not Fun"

The loot drops are fine. You aren't supposed to survive on drops alone.
The crafting system exists, as well as disenchanting to get more orbs for crafting.

You don't get drops, you don't get the gold or currency to craft. The difference between someone getting drops and not is massive.

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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:

I am convinced you didn't even read the sentence you just quoted, and just decided to shit on it instead.
What a waste of effort.

Yes, anyone writing in this condescending tone might as well save themselves the effort :-)

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Nothv13#0740 wrote:

You don't get drops, you don't get the gold or currency to craft. The difference between someone getting drops and not is massive.

Yeah, I think this is one of the reasons why it is harder for some than the others.
I really liked the game so far. But my "not-fun" limit reached its threshold. Let's see, maybe I try it again soon.